smallspy
Senior Member
Also note that the second (lower) photo was taken at a time when auto traffic was a miniscule fraction of what it is today.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
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Also note that the second (lower) photo was taken at a time when auto traffic was a miniscule fraction of what it is today.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
GraphicMatt
Looking forward to a FRESH START for Toronto
drum118 would be an incredibly effective transit advocate in this city if he was able to type a little bit better and communicate more clearly.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Steve Munro is starting to veer away from transit advocacy into TTC apologist territory. And it's no surprise. He's got a lot invested in Giambrone, Miller, Transit City and the St. Clair ROW.
How else to explain the assertion that drum's pictures were taken to discredit the St. Clair ROW and Transit City? When I first saw the pictures, that didn't even occur to me. I thought "incompetence" more than anything else. That Steve would hint at a political agenda reveals his own.
How else to explain the assertion that drum's pictures were taken to discredit the St. Clair ROW and Transit City? When I first saw the pictures, that didn't even occur to me. I thought "incompetence" more than anything else. That Steve would hint at a political agenda reveals his own.
taal
Senior Member
Interesting take, but I'm not sure I'm willing to jump to that conclusion just yet. A few points:
1) I don't think that comment was directed at Drum in particular - it flared up after some posts on his site.
More important, if you looked at the first comment Munro had about the issue - it was something along the lines of:
"Steve: Although this (and related shots) emphasizes the effect with a telephoto lens, yes, this is really embarrassing. The TTC claims that it is comparable to what’s already in place between Yonge and Bathurst. I plan to photograph both sections at the same focal length."
This was the very first comment he made before he actually took the pictures him self - after he did, he changed his attitude. That doesn't sound like a political agenda to me.
GraphicMatt
Looking forward to a FRESH START for Toronto
I don't think Steve was referring to drum at all - there were a ton of people (in this thread) who jumped on the photos talking about how it was clear incompetence and this is what would doom TC.
If Munro was a TTC apologist you'd think the TTC would like him more. He gets on well with Giambrone and Miller, yes, but he's frequently at odds with TTC management.
UD2
Active Member
because anybody who doesn't agree with you must be corrupt and evil...
kettal
Banned
I believe English is not his first language.
Juan_Lennon416
Senior Member
some of you people can be so rude 
GraphicMatt
Looking forward to a FRESH START for Toronto
I figured that, and I really don't mean to be rude or dismissive by saying what I said. I think he does fantastic work and does more than most of the transit nerds on this forum by actually showing up in person at various meetings.
Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
Could someone post or link to the photos on Steve's site? For some reason his blog site seems to think that my work IP is a spammer :O
waterloowarrior
Senior Member
Same here when I use my cellphone... try accessing through Proxify.com or a similar site
Juan_Lennon416
Senior Member
Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
After looking at the photos on Steve Munro's site (through Google's cache), I have to say that this is the telephoto effect. In a number of his photos it is clear that the telephoto lens compressed the distance and exaggerated the width making it look like the tracks shift many feet with in a short distance. While the normal picture shows that the bends are more spread out. Is this right? No but it is far from an unmitigated disaster. This is what happens when you try to please all parties.
Observer Walt
Senior Member
some of you people can be so rude
Well I'm sorry but afraid I have to agree. I appreciate drum's photos and commentary. He seems to get all over the city and has been good enough to update us on various things. Almost all of what I know about St. Clair comes from his posts, which I appreciate.