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Yet she was the transportation minister that formulated the entire big move plan... There really couldn't be a better premeir for transit right now..
No, she didn't become the minister until January 2010. Jim Bradley was the minister from 2006 to 2010 when they formulate the Big Move.Yet she was the transportation minister that formulated the entire big move plan...
I agree.There really couldn't be a better premeir for transit right now..
Wynne was Minister when they delayed the LRT projects, and cut the piece of Eglinton from Jane to Pearson, Finch West from Finch West station to Finch station, the SRT from Sheppard to Malvern, and Sheppard East, east of the yard.
Uh, no ... she got it almost a year earlier in January 2010. She was the Transport Minister behind the LRT cuts that Miller fought against during 2010, long before Rob Ford became mayor on December 1, 2010.To be fair, she got the job the same time Ford got his job.
She was the Transport Minister behind the LRT cuts that Miller fought against during 2010, long before Rob Ford became mayor on December 1, 2010.
Why are you trying to mislead everyone? The funding was stretched out for years extra, delaying projects significantly.The "provincial LRT cuts" were a total fabrication. The province announced $9 billion in funding for LRT and Viva in 2009, the TTC seriously underestimated their costs and came back needing an extra $2.4 billion to cover the difference, and when no more free money appeared, rather than chip in from the City budget Miller chose to throw a tantrum.
I'd say treating the delays from July 2010 as one and the same as non-cut "cuts" from February 2010 is misleading.Why are you trying to mislead everyone? The funding was stretched out for years extra, delaying projects significantly.
What July 2010 delays? Metrolinx published the delayed schedule at least as early as May 2010. It all came out of the March 2010 budgetI'd say treating the delays from July 2010 as one and the same as non-cut "cuts" from February 2010 is misleading.
Whoops, my mistake. It was May and not July.What July 2010 delays? Metrolinx published the delayed schedule at least as early as May 2010.
They were two different events --- as that document makes clear, the decision to shorten the lines came in January-February (slides 5-7), and that had nothing to do with the stretched timelines, which came after the provincial budget (slides 8-12).It's the same May 2010 Metrolinx document that details both the reduced scope and implementation delay - http://www.metrolinx.com/en/docs/pdf/board_agenda/20100519/Five_in_Ten_Board_web.pdf
I'd say your attempt to turn it into two different events is misleading.
Ah yes ... just weeks apart. Both coming out of provincial funding restraints. There's no reason that the province couldn't have simply funded the projects they'd originally agreed to, despite the price increases, and simply deferred the work for the Phase 2 stuff beyond the original timeframe.They were two different events --- as that document makes clear, the decision to shorten the lines came in January-February (slides 5-7), and that had nothing to do with the stretched timelines, which came after the provincial budget (slides 8-12).
Mere weeks apart, both coming out of provincial funding constraints. I wouldn't be surprised if they were both coming out of January 2010 discussions in the provincial government after Wynne took over ... and the expectation before then was that the province would simply foot the bill.Miller went out of his way to try and claim that two separate changes, made months apart, were one and the same because it let him dodge the blame for having the first four Transit City lines go more than 25% over budget right out of the gate.
My gosh, if a bit of politics to benefit the citizens of Toronto is the dirtiest move of a mayoralty, then the guy must have been a saint! Compare to the tactics of the current incumbent designed to benefit his business, property, and family.It's my personal opinion that he made one of the dirtiest moves of his mayoralty by claiming that the lines were being shortened and stations were being removed by provincial cutbacks when the amount of provincial money was staying the same and it turned out the City had been asked to fund the overruns and they said "no."
How can you not blame Wynne for the delays to the lines? Before Wynne, Sheppard would have opened in September 2013 - then it was 2015. Eglinton would have started opening in 2016 - then it became 2020. Finch West was to open in 2016, and Wynne changed it to 2019. The SRT was to open to open before the 2015 Pan-Am games - and then it became 2020 (though I admit they'd have had problems achieving this).My point is it's unfair to tar Kathleen Wynne as somehow being responsible for LRT "cuts". There's plenty of blame to go around.
There's no reason that the province couldn't have simply funded the projects they'd originally agreed to, despite the price increases.
Where was this quoted? The quote I saw, simply was about not being able to drive her own car anymore ... it didn't talk about when or where.... while, at the same time, stating that she will really miss being able to drive from home to QP.
I really don't think we should be counting the 655 million ones that was to build the Finch East LRT from Yonge station to Don Mills station - that wasn't TTC's idea, or part of the original TTC estimate.There were 2.4 billion reasons.
Blank cheque? What blank cheque? These lines are being constructed and owned by the province. The city isn't getting any cheques. The province has already indicated they are prepared to 100% fund these projects ... the only question is how much.If our standard for a "transit supportive" provincial government is one that will sign blank cheques to Toronto to build what they want at 100% provincial funding regardless of where the price tag goes, then we'll be waiting a very long time for one.
Where was this quoted? The quote I saw, simply was about not being able to drive her own car anymore ... it didn't talk about when or where.