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They should have times posted for when the next train is coming and its terminus.

Would kind of suck to have to watch 3 trains go by not knowing which one would be the VCC train.
 
M II A II R II K said:
They should have times posted for when the next train is coming and its terminus.

Would kind of suck to have to watch 3 trains go by not knowing which one would be the VCC train.
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Uh...trains now say "Finch" and "Downsview" so I presume the trains going north would be correctly labeled. TTC can't do much right in some areas but I'm sure people will mostly be getting on the correct train.

We're a bit spoiled here with the simplicity of our system. In places like New York you actually have to make sure you're getting on the right train.
 
I meant to say an electronic system that tells you how many minutes the next few trains are expected to arrive, and what their destinations are.

So that would be half the trains just going to Downsview, the other half going to York University, and half of the York University trains also going to VCC.
 
well, here we go - phase 1 contract awarded, construction starting Nov 2009...

from today's Daily Commercial News....

SUBWAY EXTENSION Proj: 9104634-9

Toronto, Metro Toronto Reg ON AWARD

Spadina Subway Extension, Downsview Station Connection to Wilson Yard Wed Aug 26, 2009 14:00

T13SB09609 A24-1 $142,520,000
Start: November, 2009

Project: First phase of the Toronto-York Spadina subway extension and comprises the construction of a new subway running structure that will provide the first part of an additional link, through a previously constructed mainline connection to Wilson Yard. Work will also provide for a future third mainline track paralledl to the Wilson-to-Downsview main line for short turn and temporary line storage functions. The work will utilize cut & cover construction methods to accommodate placement of a reinforced concrete running box structure. The work includes: removal & disposal of hazardous materials, design placement and removal of an excavation support system, road diversion, interim site grading and temporary Bus Rapid Transit access, construction of underground reinforced concrete structure; tunnel dry standpipe system for new box structure, and various civil, electrical and mechanical work.

Development: Engineering

Category: Tunnels, subways; Railroads; Misc engineering
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First report Wed Jul 15, 2009. Last report Thu Aug 27, 2009.
This report Thu Oct 29, 2009.
Bid Results
Belor Const, 6625 Kitimat Rd, Unit 46, Mississauga ON L5N 6J1, Phone: 905-858-7666, Fax: 905-858-7789 $142,520,000
 
Excellent news. Glad to hear that visible construction will commence soon.
 
Could be a typo in the Belor news bulletin. Otherwise that is a ten fold increase!!!
 
lead82 said:
Could be a typo in the Belor news bulletin. Otherwise that is a ten fold increase!!!
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Must be a typo in the news. The bids ranged between $14.3 and $21.8 million. Note that the engineer's estimate was $23.5 million ... hopefully we see a lot of these bids coming in under estimate in the current tight market.
 
They are just a little behind schedule. After the present Provincial government chalks up record deficits a public backlash will elect a right-wing government on a commons sense platform that includes cancelling subway expansion projects in hated Toronto as a cost cutting measure. At that time they need to have already started digging out stations, so that they can be subsequently filled back in.
 
TrickyRicky said:
They are just a little behind schedule. After the present Provincial government chalks up record deficits a public backlash will elect a right-wing government on a commons sense platform that includes cancelling subway expansion projects in hated Toronto as a cost cutting measure. At that time they need to have already started digging out stations, so that they can be subsequently filled back in.
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Get the current government to have a written contract guaranteeing that the Spadina expansion will be built. That way if we do have the Mike Harris clone in office, they can't weasel their way out of it without legal repercussions.

Also, we have to remember that the subway is going into 905 territory, so if the PC party wants to keep their voter base happy the subway has to be built or they won't see another term in office.
 
CodeMonkey said:
Get the current government to have a written contract guaranteeing that the Spadina expansion will be built. That way if we do have the Mike Harris clone in office, they can't weasel their way out of it without legal repercussions.
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Legal repercussions are par for the course on these sorts of things... it's the reason why McGuinty couldn't meet his first-term commitment on the 407 and why the City of Ottawa's likely on the hook for millions to Siemens for the aborted Chiarelli LRT.

I'm not honestly sure how they managed to fill-in Eglinton West without huge penalties... was there only the one early contract that had been signed?
 
I'm pretty sure the Spadina money was put in a trust that couldn't be used for anything else. This was done so Eglinton couldn't be repeated.
 
The problem here is that the line is deep underground through empty fields and hydro corridors. It makes absolutely no sense. The entire York/VCC extension should have been elevated except for a brief segment in the York campus and perhaps at VCC itself.
 
unimaginative2 said:
The problem here is that the line is deep underground through empty fields and hydro corridors. It makes absolutely no sense. The entire York/VCC extension should have been elevated except for a brief segment in the York campus and perhaps at VCC itself.
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Oh, I think the underground line is a benefit in that it swallows some of the cost for future development. But really, why do we need a station here in the present? Why not just build a hole for a station until the development comes, instead of overbuilding for the present? It's just a total waste of funds. Let's just put this in perspective; Eglinton wil go without a subway for the forseeable future (LRT is just a poor stop gap), we desperately need a DRL, the Sheppard Line/Scarborough RT need extensions to places that aren't the middle of nowhere, and the TTC is facing fare hikes to pay for a projected $100 million loss. And yet, somehow, amongst all this, we manage to spend $140 million dollars on a subway station that really is in the middle of nowhere. I don't even think the most optimistic estimates for daily use are in the tens of thousands, and those people could just as easily go to one of the other stations for the time being (these so called 'riders' have cars), while the TTC manages to control its waste.

You know, really, $140 million won't build you a subway line, but at the end of the day, these costs add up. Poor management decisions like these are why the TTC is in debt. A subway extension up North to York makes sense - but for the time being there just isn't the density to support a subway North of Steeles (however much I want to get to Vaughan Mills/Canada's Wonderland without a car). We shouldn't be building this part of the line until at least the end of the next decade, when this area starts to mature.
 
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