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I and others have been pushing to get CP into the trench, but not like the one that has been plan.

It's nice to hear that CP is looking at this as they have to respond to the ToR for this area.

There is enough room starting at Eginton to get CP under the various roads that will cross corridor.

The big issue is to the north for CP, at the 401, as there is only enough room for 3 tracks to the 401. There is will be 2 tracks under it, but what will the grade do to the structure for the 401 as well at Wilson.

There will have to be a small underpass at Oak St to keep CP at .8% grade.

This will allow the Bolton line to service Weston without having 2 stations.

Having the Bolton Line stopping at Weston will allow riders to get to/from the airport as well to/from the west.
 
Second (of three) round of Open Houses

Dates and times. Also, on April 15, there will be online materials.

Fort York
Wednesday, April 15 3:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
Fort York, Blue Barracks Room, 100 Garrison Road

Etobicoke
Thursday, April 16 3:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
Courtyard by Marriott - Toronto Airport, Atlantic Room, 231Carlingview Drive

Brampton
Friday, April 17 3:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
Terry Miller Recreation Centre, Room #2, 1295 Williams Parkway

Weston
Monday, April 20 3:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
Weston Park Baptist Church 1871 Weston Road Hall B

West Toronto
Tuesday, April 20 3:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
The Lithuanian House, 1573 Bloor Street West

Mount Dennis
Wednesday, April 21 3:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
Mount Dennis United Church, 71 Guestville Avenue
 
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Today marks the official start of the 120 day reporting and consultation process. After that there will be 30 days for the public to digest the environmental project report then 35 more days for the Minister to make a decision.

A time-out can only be called if the project might affect a matter of provincial interest related to the natural environment, a cultural heritage resource or an aboriginal treaty issue.

The Minister can give approval, ask for a revised report (addressing matters of provincial interest only) or approve with conditions related to a matter of provincial interest related to the above.

The Minister can only ask for a full EA if the revised report is still deficient.

(Just wrote a paper on this. It was the most fun paper I've ever written. Actually off to hand it in now...)
 
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RedRocket191 said:
Today marks the official start of the 120 day reporting and consultation process. After that there will be 30 days for the public to digest the environmental project report then 35 more days for the Minister to make a decision.

A time-out can only be called if the project might affect a matter of provincial interest related to the natural environment, a cultural heritage resource or an aboriginal treaty issue.

The Minister can give approval, ask for a revised report (addressing matters of provincial interest only) or approve with conditions related to a matter of provincial interest related to the above.

The Minister can only ask for a full EA if the revised report is still deficient.

(Just wrote a paper on this. It was the most fun paper I've ever written. Actually off to hand it in now...)
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Good to get a high level of the key milestones, thanks!
 
http://www.metrolinx.com/GSSE/default.aspx

Georgetown South Service Expansion and Union-Pearson Rail Link
Draft Environmental Project Report, Part I

On April 2, 2009, Metrolinx issued a Notice of Commencement for the Georgetown South Service Expansion, including a Union-Pearson Rail Link (GSSE/UPRL), under the Province of Ontario’s Transit Project Assessment Process (TPAP).

This marked the beginning of the formal TPAP process and the 120-day consultation period.


What is happening now?

During the consultation period, Metrolinx will prepare a draft Environmental Project Report (EPR).

Part I of the Draft EPR is currently available on for review and comment. It provides:

A project description
A map and description of existing environmental conditions
What happens next?

Part II of the Draft EPR will be available in May.
The consultation period will end when a Notice of Completion is issued on July 30, 2009.
The two parts of the EPR - plus the feedback Metrolinx receives from the public, government agencies and First Nations - will be combined to produce the Environmental Project Report
What happens after July 30, 2009?

The Environmental Project Report will be posted for comment. The public, government agencies, and First Nations will have 30 days to review and send any objections in writing to the Minister of the Environment.
The Minister of the Environment will have 35 days to review the report and any objections and make a decision on whether the project can proceed as described in the Environmental Project Report, proceed subject to conditions, or require more work.
For more information on TPAP, please see: http://www.metrolinx.com/gsse/how/default.aspx
 
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The GO Georgetown South service expansion presents an opportunity to provide a greatly improved rail service to Canada’s largest airport (Pearson International Airport) from Canada’s busiest service transportation hub (Union Station).

The Union-Pearson spur line will be single track on an elevated structure, adding approximately 3 km of mainline track. It will spur off the GO Georgetown line at Highway 427 before aligning adjacent to Goreway Drive on the west side. The elevated track will pass over Zahavy Way, and Mimico Creek before realigning on the west side of Highway 409. It will run parallel to Highway 409 over Dorman Road, over the existing employee parking, over Viscount Road, Airport Roadand Silver Dart Roadbefore turning easterly, then to its terminus at Terminal One.

In terms of service operations, the Union-Pearson Rail Link services planned to operate every 15 to 20 minutes throughout the day.

The details of the recommended plan for the Union-Pearson Rail Link are shown in Figures 30 to 34 in Appendix E.

Stations

The Union-Pearson Rail Link trains are planned to depart Union Station and stop at Bloor GO Station, Weston GO Station and then terminate at Pearson Airport.

Maintenance Facility

The Union-Pearson Rail Link operations and maintenance facility location is between Northwest Drive and Network Drive and is shown on Figure 33 of Appendix E. Property will be required for this facility.
 
waterloowarrior said:
The Union-Pearson Rail Link trains are planned to depart Union Station and stop at Bloor GO Station, Weston GO Station and then terminate at Pearson Airport.
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Stopping at Weston doesn't seem to make any sense. Wouldn't it make more sense to stop at Eglinton to meet the Transit City Line. Or at a second station somewhere between Union and Bloor (Liberty?)?
 
nfitz said:
Stopping at Weston doesn't seem to make any sense. Wouldn't it make more sense to stop at Eglinton to meet the Transit City Line. Or at a second station somewhere between Union and Bloor (Liberty?)?
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Looks like the GO Eglinton Station is 315 m long... smaller than the Union Pearson Stations, same size as the new Etobicoke North Station platform. I guess they figure that Eglinton riders will just take the Eglinton line to the airport.
 
nfitz said:
Stopping at Weston doesn't seem to make any sense. Wouldn't it make more sense to stop at Eglinton to meet the Transit City Line. Or at a second station somewhere between Union and Bloor (Liberty?)?
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But we have to keep everyone in Weston happy don't we?

I wouldn't worry about this just yet, after everyone in Weston sees the improved go train services that will be operating through the corridor, they will forget about wanting access to the expensive Blue 22 service.
 
Voltz said:
But we have to keep everyone in Weston happy don't we?
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No, we most certainly don't. Besides, I really don't think anything would make them happy unless we magically transported every Nimby in the town to 500-miles from the nearest urban area, but with magical and instantaneous transportation to the jobs and airport they want.

Besides, if Weston is to become a major transportation node, then it would (or at least should) lead to big-time densification.
 
It's bad form to trash Weston residents for actually sticking up for their community. Their complaints are valid and at least they have come forward with proposals for solutions as opposed to simply protesting against the increased traffic. In the end, the city will be better off for it. I do hope they succeed in pushing for more modern technology. I don't want visitors to Toronto thinking the best we've got is Budd RDC for rail technology.
 
nfitz said:
No, we most certainly don't. Besides, I really don't think anything would make them happy unless we magically transported every Nimby in the town to 500-miles from the nearest urban area, but with magical and instantaneous transportation to the jobs and airport they want.

Besides, if Weston is to become a major transportation node, then it would (or at least should) lead to big-time densification.
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nfitz, you are greatly mis-informed about Weston.
Weston residents want the line electrified. This is for everyone in Toronto.
We are not NIBMY.
We just do not want a train passing every 5 minutes through ALL the communities along the Georgetown corridor in Toronto.
We do not want John street closed. It would cost $300 million to keep John Street open, and to bury the train right through most of Weston. There would be no need for a pedestrian bridge (which Metrolinx has not confirmed if it will be wheelchair accessible), there would be no need to move the Weston GO station.
We are already greatly intensified. Have you been to Weston?? Have you seen the buildings lining Weston Rd from Lawrence Ave to hwy 401? A number of these buildings have helped in the deterioation of Weston.

I don't think you have visited Weston, nor do you understand the community, the changes it has gone through over the last 20 year.
You may want to read the below link:

http://www.blogto.com/weston

Your comments towards residents of Weston are mis-informed, lack understanding and knowlege as to the issues at hand in not only this community but also other communities along the track.

The good news is that many many other residents, resident associations, and businesses along the track are taking notice at how poorly thought out the Blue 22 project is in its current format.

I belive Blue 22 project will be changed and altered to better reflect the needs of the residents along the track, and serve not only tourists, but Toronto residents as well.
 
saveyorksouthweston said:
We are already greatly intensified. Have you been to Weston?? Have you seen the buildings lining Weston Rd from Lawrence Ave to hwy 401? A number of these buildings have helped in the deterioation of Weston.

I don't think you have visited Weston, nor do you understand the community, the changes it has gone through over the last 20 year.
You may want to read the below link:

http://www.blogto.com/weston

Your comments towards residents of Weston are mis-informed, lack understanding and knowlege as to the issues at hand in not only this community but also other communities along the track.
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Though the link isn't necessarily any more flattering to those who live in the "good" parts of Weston, than to those in the "bad" parts.

Also, be cautious with reading "intensification" too negatively through the evidence of what already physically exists--which in very large part, predates those past 20 years of changes you allude to, and all too often betrays a history of lax planning or at least lax landlording. Unfortunately (or not), Weston's 50s/60s/70s "intensification stock" has more in common with the shabby contemporary wild-west redevelopment of Jameson in Parkdale or the Mimico waterfront--it's not like it'd be done the same way today. Just like it isn't as if Weston Rd would be any better with its existing strip malls retained, or with their replacement by tacky townhouses as opposed to highrises. (And at the same time, a lot of those rundown highrise/midrise rentals--just as on Jameson and in Mimico--have had an illustrious sleeper history as starter accomodation for ambitious New Canadians. Remember: they aren't all welfare bums or crack dealers or escorts in there...)
 
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