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Evergreens on Toronto boulevards

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Considering our climate, I was just wondering why Toronto does not plant more evergreens on boulevards. It would seem that they would have the ability to remove more Co2 from the air than the Deciduous trees that are currently planted all over Toronto.
 
The only thing about deciduous is that they don't shade in winter (no leaves) so what little insolation there is can melt footpaths and heat buildings.

Evergreens might work for parks and other areas where this is less of an issue.
 
That wold look a little odd, but I'm sure it's doable.
Evergreens would need to be pruned at the bottom for it to allow space at the bottom for people to walk under, otherwise it would take up more space.

Evergreens suck up more Co2 than deciduous ones? Do they grow in harider conditions, like little rain and less soil? It seems like all our trees are dying on the street and becoming stubs and then concrete pavement. It's amazing going through Vancouer or Montreal and seeing those massive trees, who must have huge root networks survive on busy streets.
 
I remember someone mentioing this idea before, but I think a major hurdle are the safety concerns related to evergreens. Evergreens are easier for someone to hide in so they're a good place for someone to hide waiting for someone to pass by, or for someone running away to find cover. I'm not sure if I agree with it, but it's something to consider.
 
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Evergreens are not planted on City boulevards for a few reasons.

1) Already mentioned above is concern about public safety. Young evergreens maintain a high level of needle density near the ground, for several years. This has the effect of obstructing sightlines and views and thus making it possible for someone to hide behind one ( a potential thief etc.), but also poses a traffic sightline issue in the same way, someone walking out from behind a Spruce tree would be invisible till in the road way.

2) A second reason evergreens are not used, is that for the most part they are not salt-tolerant, in particular, Cedar, Pine and Hemlock would all suffer greatly the harsh environment of a narrow urban boulevard or a tree pit.
Spruce is slightly more tolerant of urban conditions, but would still show a lower survival rate than the typical Silver Maple or Honey Locust (the 2 most common street trees). Also keep in mind many evergreens, such as pine also require a different Ph level in the soil than deciduous trees which would man amended the soil before planting, hemlocks tend to grow much better in damp and shade.

3) The last reason they are not planted is that they do very little to meet the City's tree canopy or (shade) goals. A big part of tree planting in the City is done with reducing the heat from paved surfaces such as roads and sidewalks. Evergreens typically have a far narrower profile, especially as they get older, and don't cast nearly as much shade as an oak or a maple.

All of the above does not preclude some planting of evergreens, but most likely on sites like the north side of Lakeshore Blvd. or large boulevard widths in suburban areas, mixed with deciduous trees. In those conditions the above concerns could be more easily addressed.

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As to the overall poor condition of trees. There are a host of reasons, and the City is aware of them all; its really a question of resources.

1) Urban conditions can be rough, more so on some trees than others. The City already tends to plant more urban-hardy trees.

2) Size of area for root growth. Probably the single biggest reason for tree failure. As a rule of thumb, the roots of trees should be as wide as the widest branches of the crown. In the case of a big maple, that means the roots need about 4-6m (12-18ft) of growing room across. That means tiny little concrete boxes or tree pits are terrible for the trees.

The City knows this as is moving where possible to tree trenches (one long pit, covered with concrete plates at some points); as well as larger planters. An example would be the new planters on the west side of Yonge Street just south of Lakeshore (by Pinnacle Centre).

However, this is generally only done with major streetscape work or redevelopment of a whole block.

3) Water! The trees need lots of it. They don't tend to get enough, in part because of their constrained roots, but also because concrete sidewalks and roads let little or no water in below their surface.

Here the City is moving in all new developments to require automatic irrigation of the trees. Its also testing a new design for semi-permeable sidewalks this summer as it does reconstruction on the Queensway.

Follow this link for info:

http://www.toronto.ca/involved/projects/queensway_rehab-mimico/index.htm

Hope that helps; and gives you some hope! :)
 
Consider that evergreens get very wide at the base. They will begin to intrude on the sidewalk. A deciduous tree won't take up sidewalk space as it matures. There will be a trunk and branches higher up. That's part of the beauty of a tree lined street, when the trees are taller and provide a canopy. And all those practical concerns, like the one about salt tolerance, are definitely salient.

Roncesvalles has some nice trees. In one spot near St. Vincent de Paul church there's a tree that must be near a hundred years old judging from the thick trunk. Seeing trees like that on a retail strip in Toronto is a rare sight.

It's great to hear that the City is finally interested in properly planting trees. The concrete planters' days must be numbered.
 
Roncesvalles has some nice trees. In one spot near St. Vincent de Paul church there's a tree that must be near a hundred years old judging from the thick trunk. Seeing trees like that on a retail strip in Toronto is a rare sight.

And it had a sibling to the south until a few years ago. The asphalt patch shows where it was...
 
Evergreens are not planted on City boulevards for a few reasons.

1) Already mentioned above is concern about public safety. Young evergreens maintain a high level of needle density near the ground, for several years. This has the effect of obstructing sightlines and views and thus making it possible for someone to hide behind one ( a potential thief etc.), but also poses a traffic sightline issue in the same way, someone walking out from behind a Spruce tree would be invisible till in the road way.

2) A second reason evergreens are not used, is that for the most part they are not salt-tolerant, in particular, Cedar, Pine and Hemlock would all suffer greatly the harsh environment of a narrow urban boulevard or a tree pit.
Spruce is slightly more tolerant of urban conditions, but would still show a lower survival rate than the typical Silver Maple or Honey Locust (the 2 most common street trees). Also keep in mind many evergreens, such as pine also require a different Ph level in the soil than deciduous trees which would man amended the soil before planting, hemlocks tend to grow much better in damp and shade.

3) The last reason they are not planted is that they do very little to meet the City's tree canopy or (shade) goals. A big part of tree planting in the City is done with reducing the heat from paved surfaces such as roads and sidewalks. Evergreens typically have a far narrower profile, especially as they get older, and don't cast nearly as much shade as an oak or a maple.

All of the above does not preclude some planting of evergreens, but most likely on sites like the north side of Lakeshore Blvd. or large boulevard widths in suburban areas, mixed with deciduous trees. In those conditions the above concerns could be more easily addressed.

********

As to the overall poor condition of trees. There are a host of reasons, and the City is aware of them all; its really a question of resources.

1) Urban conditions can be rough, more so on some trees than others. The City already tends to plant more urban-hardy trees.

2) Size of area for root growth. Probably the single biggest reason for tree failure. As a rule of thumb, the roots of trees should be as wide as the widest branches of the crown. In the case of a big maple, that means the roots need about 4-6m (12-18ft) of growing room across. That means tiny little concrete boxes or tree pits are terrible for the trees.

The City knows this as is moving where possible to tree trenches (one long pit, covered with concrete plates at some points); as well as larger planters. An example would be the new planters on the west side of Yonge Street just south of Lakeshore (by Pinnacle Centre).

However, this is generally only done with major streetscape work or redevelopment of a whole block.

3) Water! The trees need lots of it. They don't tend to get enough, in part because of their constrained roots, but also because concrete sidewalks and roads let little or no water in below their surface.

Here the City is moving in all new developments to require automatic irrigation of the trees. Its also testing a new design for semi-permeable sidewalks this summer as it does reconstruction on the Queensway.

Follow this link for info:

http://www.toronto.ca/involved/projects/queensway_rehab-mimico/index.htm

Hope that helps; and gives you some hope! :)

Interesting info. Thanks
 
Northern Light, thank you for the well-informed reply. There are only a limited number of trees which will do well on city streets, and none at all which will do well in the longer run in those ridiculous sidewalk planters. Whoever hatched that idea simply wasn't thinking. The sooner they disappear, the better.

Maybe we need to accept that we don't actually need trees on every major street. Use small shrubbery, or imaginative street furniture, sculptures, piazzas, etc. instead. Make up for it by putting more trees in parks and ravines.
 

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