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    Chilling

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    Thanks, Mustapha.
    That Detroit site is amazing [http://detroiturbex.com/index.html] - I must have spent more than an hour with it!

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    I might have told this story here before, but back when I was an urban planning student in college our class took 2 field trips - one to Toronto, and one to Detroit - to compare "a city that worked" with a city that didn't.

    Both cities, however, actually looked pretty much the same...at least from our point of view, since we toured both downtowns mostly through a network of construction awnings: in Toronto, because there was actually construction going on; and in Detroit because so many office buildings were abandonded and unmaintained that chunks of them were falling from the sky on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVCco View Post
    I might have told this story here before, but back when I was an urban planning student in college our class took 2 field trips - one to Toronto, and one to Detroit - to compare "a city that worked" with a city that didn't.

    Both cities, however, actually looked pretty much the same...at least from our point of view, since we toured both downtowns mostly through a network of construction awnings: in Toronto, because there was actually construction going on; and in Detroit because so many office buildings were abandonded and unmaintained that chunks of them were falling from the sky on a regular basis.

    Economics.. eggs.. in one basket.. is a term that comes to mind. The automotive industry and its ancilliary and feeder industries raised Detroit to greatness. The industry's denouement/inevitable correction - Asia, robotics, race-to-the bottom market pressures; pick any or all and some I can't think of, means the Detroit situation is irreversible.

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    Then and Now for February 25, 2013.





    Then. Bridge. Mill Street.







    Now. August 2012.




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    Ah, I know the weekend is over and no more nonsense but I can't help my post Oscars excitement:

    Shirley Bassey. Then and Now.

    http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/02/24/W...spt=fsb&or=ros

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    "Ah, I know the weekend is over and no more nonsense but I can't help my post Oscars excitement:
    Shirley Bassey. Then and Now:"
    QUOTE: Mustapha.

    http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/02/24/W...spt=fsb&or=ros

    And just to remind anyone who wants to "play" with Mr Auric Goldfinger:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwPxn...ture=endscreen

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...H0C6FNO5U&NR=1


    Regards,
    J T
    Last edited by J T CUNNINGHAM; 2013-Feb-25 at 03:42.
    IF only I had of questioned then, for the answers needed now . . .

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    Birrell’s Bridge, Frank Barber, Township Engineer. Article by Frank Barber from “The Contract Record and Engineering Review,” May 14, 1914:








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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustapha View Post
    Economics.. eggs.. in one basket.. is a term that comes to mind. The automotive industry and its ancilliary and feeder industries raised Detroit to greatness. The industry's denouement/inevitable correction - Asia, robotics, race-to-the bottom market pressures; pick any or all and some I can't think of, means the Detroit situation is irreversible.
    We were there for the Auto Show at the end of January, and surprisingly the city *feels* better than it did when we were there last (ten years ago), at least in the downtown core. Several buildings have been saved and/or restored -- we stayed at the renovated Book-Cadillac (now a Westin) and were amazed to see one of the nearby abandoned skyscrapers had just reopened as condos/apartments. The gorgeous gorgeous Guardian Building is now fully restored and the lobby open to the public. There were people on the streets in a previously dead part of town. I get the feeling that people have now come to terms with what Detroit was and never will be again, but are eager to salvage some of that history and make it into something new, at least downtown. It's fitting that one of the big heroes of Detroit is the boxer Joe Louis--because Detroit feels like a champion boxer who's been hit many, many times and is sporting cuts and a black eye, but somehow gets up and keep fighting. Something about that city makes me root for it.

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    The Oldest Known Photos of Toronto

    http://torontoist.com/2013/02/the-ol...os-of-toronto/

    King Street East, south side, looking west, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 1.


    At the left of this row of buildings is the Golden Lion, which rivalled Eaton’s and Simpson’s as one of Toronto’s major department stores during the late 19th century. Officially known as Robert Walker and Sons, the store earned its lasting name when a golden lion statue was placed above its entrance soon after it moved to the location shown here in 1847.

    Renovated in 1867 and expanded in 1892, the store appeared to have a healthy future. But when no one in the Walker family was left to carry on the business, it closed in 1898. Some observers had doubts about the site’s future when the store was demolished in 1901. “In Toronto they are pulling down the old Golden Lion to make room for a new White Elephant in the form of a palace,” wrote the Hamilton Herald.

    The replacement? The still-operating King Edward Hotel.





    King Street East, south side between Yonge and Church streets, looking east, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 2.


    Among the businesses seen in this view is the British Colonist, one of Toronto’s first enduring newspapers. Launched in 1838, it was originally backed by supporters of the Church of Scotland. Considered “a staunch but not rabid Conservative paper” by the book Early Toronto Newspapers 1793-1867, it graduated from semi-weekly to daily publishing in 1851. The paper was sold to rival Conservative paper the Leader in 1860.





    Bank of British North America, north-east corner of Wellington and Yonge streets, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 3.


    Opened in 1846, the limestone Bank of British North America was designed by John Howard, whose personal property later became High Park. Howard also designed the adjoining warehouses, which were initially occupied by a grocer. The building was rebuilt into its present form in the mid-1870s. The site housed branches of the Bank of Montreal and CIBC, then a variety of tenants before the Irish Embassy pub settled in.





    The Exchange, Wellington Street, north side, east of Yonge Street, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 4.


    Modelled on a similar exchange across the Atlantic in London, the Toronto Exchange was established in 1854 for speculation traders specializing in produce. One-time Toronto postmaster Charles Berczy donated land he owned at the present-day northwest corner of Wellington Street and Leader Lane to the organization. Opened in 1855, it was renovated in 1877 and renamed the Imperial Bank Chambers when that financial institution moved in. Damaged by fire during the 1930s, it was demolished during World War II.





    Second United Presbyterian Church under construction, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 7.


    Established in 1851, the Second United Presbyterian congregation renamed itself Cooke’s Presbyterian Church in 1856, in honour of Irish minister Henry Cooke. After holding services at several downtown locations, including St. Lawrence Hall, the congregation moved into its permanent home at Queen and Mutual streets in 1858. A Romanesque-style replacement was built in 1891 and became one of the city’s most popular churches. During the 1920s, woshippers had to get there early to grab one of its 2,250 seats. When the church closed in 1982, its congregation had dwindled to 150. Despite a last-minute heritage designation, the church was demolished in 1984. Though there were hints of future office/residential development, the site, which sits across from Torontoist’s office, became a parking lot.





    Normal School building, Gould Street, north side, east of Yonge Street, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 8.


    Founded in 1850 by Egerton Ryerson, the Normal School served as training institution for teachers, who would populate the province’s emerging public school system. Its home in St. James Square opened in 1852 and expanded a few years later to include the Model School, where boys’ grammar classes were held. Among its amenities was a museum of natural history and fine arts which evolved into the Royal Ontario Museum.

    The Normal School was moved out in 1941 to make room for an RCAF training centre. After World War II, the site was used to prepare veterans to return to civilian life, via a school that evolved into Ryerson University. The building was demolished to make way for the present Ryerson quadrangle in 1962. Only a portion of the central façade remains today.





    Osgoode Hall, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 9
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    Built between 1829 and 1846, Osgoode Hall served as the headquarters of the Law Society of Upper Canada. Shortly after this picture was taken, the central section was reconstructed by the architectural firm of Cumberland and Storm.





    Parliament Buildings, Front Street West, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 10.


    This was the third set of parliament buildings erected in Toronto. Three separate blocks were built on the north side of Front Street, between John and Simcoe streets, from 1829 to 1832. Architect John Howard was brought in to finish off the interiors. The complex was used intermittently during the United Province of Canada era (1841 to 1867), when legislators also sat in Kingston, Montreal, and Quebec City. When this picture was taken, work had begun to fill in the spaces between the blocks for offices, in case Toronto became the permanent capital. Post-Confederation, the buildings served as the home of Ontario’s government until the present Ontario Legislative Building in Queen’s Park opened in 1893. The Grand Trunk Railway purchased the site and demolished the buildings a decade later. The site currently houses the Canadian Broadcast Centre.





    Trinity College, Queen Street West, north side, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 11.


    When the University of Toronto declared itself a secular institution in 1850, Bishop John Strachan felt an institute of higher learning with ties to the Church of England was still required. He established Trinity College and hired architect Kivas Tully to design a Gothic-styled school, the first section of which opened in 1852.

    Trinity joined U of T in 1904 and moved to the main campus in 1925. The buildings it left behind in what became Trinity Bellwoods Park were briefly used as an athletic centre, then demolished in the mid-1950s. The only remaining portions are part of the gate at the park’s entrance and the former St. Hilda’s College building on Shaw Street, now John Gibson House.





    Rossin House Hotel, southeast corner of King and York streets, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 12.


    Introduction to an article on the opening of the Rossin House, the Globe, May 5, 1857:

    “The want of proper hotel accommodation has long been a standing reproach to Toronto, and the boasted enterprise and energy of our citizens has often been called into question by visitors from other places. No longer, however, will this be needed, for by the completion of the Rossin House, ample accommodation can be afforded for as large a number of guests as are likely to visit the city at any one time, and, as far as the house is concerned, satisfaction will be given to the most fastidious.”





    Toronto from the top of Rossin House Hotel, looking northwest, 1856.
    City of Toronto Archives, Fonds 1498, Item 14.


    This image formed part of one of three panoramas of the city, shot from the top of the Rossin House, which were meant to impress Queen Victoria with how much Toronto had grown.

    As for the Rossin House, though a fire in November 1862 gutted its interior, fire safety measures included by architect William Kauffman left the walls intact. There was only one fatality. Rebuilt by 1867, it remained one of Toronto’s most fashionable hotels until the King Edward opened in 1903. Later known as the Prince George Hotel, the building was demolished in 1969.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M II A II R II K View Post
    The Oldest Known Photos of Toronto

    http://torontoist.com/2013/02/the-ol...os-of-toronto/



    Great overview! There's an error though in the section on the date of the destruction of the Exchange building; it was destroyed by fire in 1941:




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    As a young lad my mother would take me to Sherway Gardens for lunch at the restaurant inside Eaton's on the second floor. We would always get there by taking Sherway drive east from Dixie road to cross the old concrete arch bridge into Etobicoke and onto Evans avenue. As far as I know, it was the first such installation in Ontario, maybe Canada. Long since closed, it still remains over the Etobicoke creek and I understand it was restored a few years back. Story here: http://preservedstories.com/2012/12/...facebook-page/
    Quote Originally Posted by Mustapha View Post
    Then and Now for February 25, 2013.





    Then. Bridge. Mill Street.







    Now. August 2012.




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    M II A II R II K, very interesting link to Torontoist. I mean, it's no mystery.. [Torontoist] and a nice reminder of how prolific a writer Jamie Bradburn is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAC33 View Post
    We were there for the Auto Show at the end of January, and surprisingly the city *feels* better than it did when we were there last (ten years ago), at least in the downtown core. Several buildings have been saved and/or restored -- we stayed at the renovated Book-Cadillac (now a Westin) and were amazed to see one of the nearby abandoned skyscrapers had just reopened as condos/apartments. The gorgeous gorgeous Guardian Building is now fully restored and the lobby open to the public. There were people on the streets in a previously dead part of town. I get the feeling that people have now come to terms with what Detroit was and never will be again, but are eager to salvage some of that history and make it into something new, at least downtown. It's fitting that one of the big heroes of Detroit is the boxer Joe Louis--because Detroit feels like a champion boxer who's been hit many, many times and is sporting cuts and a black eye, but somehow gets up and keep fighting. Something about that city makes me root for it.
    Nice to hear about the Book Cadillac, FAC33. Pre-renovation pictures - many of which inhabit the internet - were pretty frightening.

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