Uhm ... if you want subways, then supporting Stinz might be your best shot at getting some of them included in the transit mix.Run stints out of town Toronto! Toronto deserves subways
Ford can't manage the transit file, although he is pretty good at blowing hot air.
Also if we upgrade the Milton GO line to high frequency operation, it will cost a lot less than $11 billion and relieve the west end of the Bloor-Danforth line as well as connecting to Cooksville and Milton.
If a subway on Finch is built in the hydro corridor from Yonge to Highway 400 and then underground from Highway 400 to Humber College it will cost a lot less than $10 billion.
There are ways to cut costs substantially while still building subways (or high frequency GO trains that are similar to subways) and not low capacity light rail that removes car lanes.
Clearly, raising taxes was not an option. Chong suggested "other potential funding tools". What tools, who knows. It's like saying there's lots of gravy at city hall but Ford ended up cutting services instead. If they think the developers will cough up the money, they're living in a dream world.Stintz argued there is no way to fund a subway without raising taxes, challenging Chong to say where in his plan there is an explanation of how it would be funded.
“Are you thick or what?” Chong replied, to enormous applause. “If this mayor and this council would open their minds to all the potential funding tools available we could not only fund this line but a whole network.”
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Some good archival info at http://transit.toronto.on.ca/subway/5107.shtml
The point is that Sheppard subway is not the worst money loser on the system, some regular fare bus routes (not just 14x expresses) have lower cost recovery ratio.
Singling out Sheppard subway riders for a higher fare is just envy, not rational transit planning. Once you go down that road, you open a can of worms, and certainly prompt more service cuts on surface routes.
Rob Ford said today on The City, that if he cannot get subways he will not be putting in streetcars in Toronto. So guess that means that the council vote to put the LRT at surface along Eglinton will not get built according to Ford which means nothing for Finch either then. How can he talk like this and how much of a fool is he going to look like when the LRT is built? What is he going to say in the next election when it is brought to his attention that he had said if no subways will be built he would not be putting anymore streetcars in toronto and we at that time have another 2 - 3 lines of LRT?
W. K. Lis