All the parking lots suck, but retail does generate a lot of travel. Replacing those stores with homes could well reduce ridership at Wilson, not increase it.
Also... "Residences of Under the Flightpath" is NOT good planning.
At Woodbine, the tunnel to the platforms is still there, walled off, and used for storage. The stairwell is gone. Some of the track is still there on Strathmore and Cedarvale. Not sure if some of the platform is in the garden centre. I'm not that familiar with Keele.
So you're not going to get NIMBY complaints about planes flying low over their houses even a couple times a day?Originally Posted by rbt
Look, what I'm saying is that replacing this big box plaza with residential is a bad idea for multiple reasons. It's zoned for employment lands right now for good reason. Redevelop the site within that context.
I expect it would be lower than the number of complaints ORNG receives for their 3am medevac trips to downtown hospitals. Anyone happen to know that number?
I just don't buy the idea that this is where retail needs to be. Yorkdale is across the street and expand it with a best buy if you need to. As for your comments that residential would not necessarily mean more transit use, I guess I look at the four new condos across from downsview metrogate. Since those buildings went up there is significant more foot traffic around the area. Much more then ever existed with that idomo retail. If you buy on a subway line there is a chance that at least one person in each house will use the ttc.
The question is is whether townhouses (just past the end of a runway) would generate more traffic than the seven existing retail units (or the even more retail that may arise as part of a redevelopment).
What surprises me is that Wilson Station is always the example used here about undeveloped land next to subway stations. Sure, it's a good example, but development has started. The fact is that some land, being directly adjacent to a airport runway, can not be developed with multi-story residental. I'm not a fan of big-box retail, but I can't think of too many other things that could have made economic sense for the site at the time.
Why isn't there the same calls for the Warden parking lots to be redeveloped? Or Kennedy? What about all the McMansions now sprouting around Glencairn?
As for big boxes, the Stockyards is more offensive. Though who would have wanted to build residental high rises on former industrial lands, that 20 years ago, was far from any desirable neighbourhood?
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http://flightaware.com/live/airport/CYZD). That may be only IFR flights. Certainly not many. But NIMBYs would complain.
They are building townhouses and condos behind the cosco... Really what's the difference?