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Thread: Transit Fantasy Maps

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    Quote Originally Posted by diminutive View Post
    I was trying to improve coverage in the 416 & inner 905.

    Major changes would be:

    1.) Don Valley realignment. To avoid the circuitous current route, and improve network connectivity, the line would be redirected through the Leaside spur (which will probably never happen IRL, but wtv). Again, just north of Bloor, the line would be redirected over the DVP and into a tunnel of sorts to transfer at Broadview Station (again, prob never happen, but wtv...). Finally, to serve what will apparently be a large employment area at the former Unilever plant, the line would swerve east and join the Lakeshore line on the east side of the Don River.

    2.)A line to Bolton along the MacTier sub. More important than Bolton, this would provide some needed coverage in North Etobicoke and Woodbridge.

    3.)A line along the Belleville sub to Claremont, which would serve Eastern Markham and Malvern.

    4.)A line through the Scarborough hydro corridor to UTSC, eventually, to a new ROW through the Seaton development and north Pickering/Ajax/Whitby roughly along Taunton road. This would provide relief to the Lakeshore East Line.

    5.)Redirecting the Stouffville Line onto the Belleville sub around Agincourt. This should provide a more direct route downtown and avoid some of the space constraints on the corridor.

    6.)More stations everywhere! I was aiming for a station every 2km or so, depending. There are some cases where the lines travel through huge industrial areas where there would be no point, but otherwise much more frequent station spacing. Stations downtown at Spadina and Church/Jarvis would reduce pressure on Union and allow service to more destinations outside of downtown.
    Very nice! Only issue I see though is the potential capacity crunch at Union. With 5 GO REX lines from each side, it may be too much for Union to handle.
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    diminuntive, this is a way better idea then extending the subway everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denfromoakvillemilton View Post
    diminuntive, this is a way better idea then extending the subway everywhere.
    Also a boatload less expensive. Getting subways to reach that far would be approaching triple digit billions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gweed123 View Post
    Also a boatload less expensive. Getting subways to reach that far would be approaching triple digit billions.
    Not necessarily... It depends on what standards we're talking about. Obviously tunnelling subways at 400mil/km all over the place would be impossible, but there's no automatic reason why commuter rail would be cheaper.

    If you built "subways" entirely at grade along existing corridors then cost really wouldn't be hugely different across transit modes.

    In Canada you get into regulatory differences between subway and "mainline" rail, which confuses things a bit, but in a more efficient setting there's no clear difference between "commuter rail" and "subways" beyond wider stop spacing and routing choices.

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    It would be even better if the crosstown spur was added to it, to not have everyone go through downtown and out again to cross the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M II A II R II K View Post
    It would be even better if the crosstown spur was added to it, to not have everyone go through downtown and out again to cross the city.
    It looks good on a map, but how useful would it be? You could make direct services from Milton, Brampton, Bolton and Barrie to Richmond Hill, Seaton, Stouffville and Malvern. It would save maybe 10-20mins compared to going across downtown, which is significant.

    In my fantasy map, though, there would already be rapid transit connections along Eglinton and Bloor-Danforth. A Summerhill Crosstown wouldn't be hugely faster than those.

    Also, it's not like any of those branches would have huge employment areas along them, so I'm not sure you'd even have significant demand to travel from, say, Malvern to Brampton. At least, not initially.

    In any case,


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    Quote Originally Posted by MafaldaBoy View Post
    Thanks to all for the advice, it's greatly appreciated. I have taken some of the changes into account, so here's V2:



    Coloured lines indicate LRT, thick gray lines with denoted stations are BRT, and thin lines are major arterial bus routes.
    I like it!

    I like the alignment along the Canal - we could easily replace the Queen Elizabeth Drive with surface LRT.
    However, I might split the Carling line from the Gatineau line: Gatineau's travel patterns are pretty unidirectional and commuter-oriented, so you'd have a lot of empty seats going in the opposite direction. Two lines might allow for greater control and efficiency. Also, what of western Gatineau? I might be a YIMBY, but judging from how the rush-hour buses that run every 2.5 minutes are jam-packed most days, I'd say there's a genuine need.

    I made my own map a few months ago



    It was commissioned by someone, so I can't take credit for some of the lines, but I see it as the full (if perhaps a little over-complete) build-out of Ottawa's transit network.

    I also made a S-Bahn (or GO-Train, now that it looks like they'll be almost the same thing!) map for fun.




    (click for le big picture)

    A lot of it is on existing railways, some of it on old railbeds and a bit of it is new, including to Orleans in a hydro corridor and in Barrhaven and Kanata along the existing Transitway. Most notably, perhaps, would be the rebuilding of our own Union Station downtown (used until the late 60s), requiring an underground concourse and tunnel à la Britomart Station in Auckland.

    I estimated the cost at around $13B for the whole thing. So hey, if the provincial government puts most of its non-GTA funding in Ottawa (plus Federal and Québec, I guess), maybe we'd be looking at our very own Big Move!

    But alas.
    Last edited by Aylmer; Yesterday at 10:47.

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    That type of RUR system is exactly what Toronto needs and could afford.

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    L.A. 2050

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