Thanks. I’m not really trying to go to Square One per se, or any particular current hub of ‘Sauga. Rather trying to intersect key N/S 905 arterials which could otherwise see transit-oriented development (and maybe more stations) in the future. I’ve always liked the idea of a grade-separated Eglinton West, which seems logical on paper. But it would be a costly project (especially with the loss of some of the Richview corridor), and it does put a trajectory into Sauga a tad farther north than I’d like. Although it’s completely fictitious, I think using Humber Valley to connect Eglinton to Bloor and Milton line roughly achieves everything that an Eglinton West extension could – and doubling as a partial Midtown line... Minus any airport connection or fast Midtown-level service. And I don’t want to interfere with the real prospect of SmartTrack *rolls eyes*.
Oh shoot; I saw you had a connection to Seaton, but didn’t see it was using the SRT alignment. I thought I was being inventive by putting to good use what may otherwise be an abandoned stretch of SRT. On top of your template, I’m now taking your ideas too! There might be a thread on this, but what do you think would be a better route to any future airport or north Pickering development: this Seaton line, or the (Havelock?) line to Peterborough?
And not building Yonge may be beneficial if there’s a realistic alternative. I know Markham and RH politicos have been pushing to have Richmond Hill GO become the DRL (so as to fastrack a Yonge ext); but using the same logic it can be argued that a better RH could reduce the need for their pet Yonge ext. It seems many people in Toronto are obsessed with creating new local priorities and Scarborough connections that they’re ignoring Yonge - which may very well be built before any Scarb Subway. Not that I can blame them, I rarely ever see Yonge on any promised maps.
RE UPX… I guess I might not know exactly what RER even is. I’ve been on systems before, but didn’t really clue in at the time how it stood out. What I’m picturing is plain Crosstown-like LRT, but run just as a high-frequency commuter line in its outer stretches. So in essence this UPX line I’ve shown could take the place of a Brampton/Kitchener GO line…but I may have to think about this some more and do some reading up.
Here’s another contribution to the zeitgeist of Toronto amateur transit fantasy maps. I was making a template of GO to overlay our subway system, but decided to tweak things a bit and show it all as if it were rapid transit. Normally I’d sum something like this up as an ultra-fantasy map; but it’s not really that wild since this is more or less the corridors that exist today.
Other than straight sections of the Barrie and Stouffville lines, I think it gives our system a more natural fluidity like most major cities’ systems. And the black background and to-scale representation allows GO’s routes to stand out a bit more. Not much new, this is more just for show.
-Eglinton Crosstown is interlined and through-routed with the Milton line and (future) Seaton line - with an express using the Midtown corridor, and connection to Kipling using the Humber Valley. The route also makes use of the current/future SRT and an extension along Ellesmere.
-Richmond Hill is interlined with the DRL north of Lawrence Ave E (and the previous ‘Don Branch’ routing I proposed through Broadview and Leaside). This runs along Queen until it turns south and hits the Exhibition grounds and BB. Perhaps eventually to become an elevated waterfront loop all the way to the Port Lands in the east.
-SmartTrack is merely the Stouffville line, but interlined with the Kitchener line. And Lakeshore East/West are one line.
I've never liked the idea of Milton being re-routed through the Midtown line. Most of those commuters are heading for the area around Union, not midtown Toronto.