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The declining popularity of golf

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I've been discussing the changing face of golf with a number of friends and media has been slowly bringing up the declining popularity of golf for a little while now. Today's Toronto Star article on this very trend has me thinking more and more that the game of golf is going to have a challenging climb back up the ranks of popular pastimes in North America. Headwinds to golf's growing popularity include: the time required to play a round, the high cost of green fees, the high learning curve required to be able to play a decent game, the high cost of equipment, the amount of valuable land required to build a standard 18-hole course, and the valuable resources required for the maintenance/upkeep of a golf course.

I used to hit the driving range fairly frequently and get in a fair number of rounds with both friends and business associates. It still wasn't frequent enough to be completely consistent but these days, my friends and I find ourselves playing even much less than before. Since we don't go out as much anymore, our preference is also for shorter courses, executive courses, or par-3 courses...simply because none of us really want to dedicate as much time to the game as we did before. It's come to the point where we'll now quickly finish the round just so we can sit around, relax and continue chatting at the "19th hole"!

What do you guys think? Any golfers or ex-golfers here? Where do you see the future of golf with the new generation?

http://www.thestar.com/business/2015/05/15/golfs-status-slipping-with-business-elite.html

Golf’s status slipping with business elite
Experts say many of today’s executives are too busy to commit five hours or more to an 18-hole game.

By: Alexandra Posadzki The Canadian Press, Published on Fri May 15 2015

TORONTO — During university, Mark Derbyshire loved to golf. But today, between working 80 hours a week as the president of Holt Renfrew and raising three teenaged sons, he says it’s hard to find the time.

“You’ve got to commit a number of hours every week to do it if you’re going to be any good at it, and I don’t really like to do stuff I’m not good at,” he says.

“To go out there and not feel very good about it — who the hell needs that?”

Hitting a few rounds was once considered a staple of networking for Canadian business leaders. But there are signs that, due to a perfect storm of factors, golf’s status as the go-to activity for the business elite is slipping.

After steadily accelerating for years, growth in the number of participants has stagnated, with an equal number of people entering and leaving the game, says a 2012 study done on behalf of the National Allied Golf Associations.

Another report released last year by that group said the number of rounds played declined to 26,100 per course in 2013 from 28,700 in 2008.

Experts say many of today’s executives are too busy to commit five hours or more to an 18-hole game. Derbyshire says much of his networking takes place at less time-consuming events such as parties, or over breakfast or lunch.

Economic pressures have also trimmed corporate budgets, leaving little room for discretionary expenses like entertaining clients.

The golf industry has also struggled to attract youth, who have a plethora of leisure activities competing for their attention.

“It’s not one of those games where you can get out and instantly do well,” says Keith McIntyre of sports marketing agency KMac and Associates, in Burlington, Ont.

“It requires a lot of work. And I don’t know if this younger generation has the patience. I’ve not seen it.”

Nonetheless a number of industry associations say the doom-and-gloom stories about golf’s demise are overblown.

“I see it more as a correction,” says Jeff Calderwood, CEO of the National Golf Course Owners Association.

“We built an awful lot of golf courses in the previous 25 years, and so the supply-demand balance got a little bit ahead of itself, and it happened to align with the weakest half-dozen years of fragile economy that we’ve had since the Depression.”

Industry groups have been lobbying the government to give golf the same tax treatment as other types of business entertainment. Companies who take clients out to a hockey game, a baseball game, the theatre or the opera can write off half of the client’s ticket cost as a taxable expense.

“If you take that same client golfing, you can’t write off 50 per cent of the cost of paying for that client’s green fees,” says Kenneth Cousineau, executive director of the Canadian Golf Superintendents Association.

“Arguably golf presents a better opportunity to discuss business than being at a hockey game, or a baseball game, or certainly a theatre production, where you’re really not talking during the activity.”

The industry is taking a number of steps to attract new players. Some owners are outfitting courses with larger holes in order to make the game more fun for beginners. Others are offering nine- or 12-hole games to address the time-crunch issue.

“Some courses are being redesigned so they can be played in six-hole segments,” says Cousineau.

At Muskoka Highlands in Bracebridge, Ont., owner Don MacKay has begun offering footgolf, a game featuring soccer balls and larger holes. So far, uptake is “slow and steady,” says MacKay. He’s hoping the tactic will help him attract millennials.

Some courses have started hosting funerals to make an extra buck, while others are building swimming pools, tennis courts and spas to attract more visitors.

Rules governing dress codes and the use of smartphones on the golf course are also beginning to loosen in a bid to accommodate younger players.

“In our industry we’re a little bit slow to innovate, because the tradition of the golf experience is such a big part of the game,” said Calderwood. “So it’s this balance between progress and tradition that has to be found. ... The traditions are what made it such a popular game in the first place.”
 
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Perhaps golf courses can be converted back into green parks. They have great real estate and it would be a shame to develop those green lands.
 
There is going to be a lot of prime real estate becoming available soon.

Perhaps golf courses can be converted back into green parks. They have great real estate and it would be a shame to develop those green lands.

I hope any golf course lands do get put to better use. While I'm not an avid golfer, I do appreciate a round every now and then. That said, it blows my mind to think of how unsustainable golf courses really are. The watering costs, the grooming costs, the club house costs...None of it is really natural. It's essentially an artificial oasis based on a postcard image of nature.
 
David Soknacki wanted to turn the underutilized Dentonia Golf Course into parkland.
 
There is going to be a lot of prime real estate becoming available soon.

It's already happening. Golf courses in urban areas are selling to developers, who are building houses on them. Usually to howls of opposition from neighbours.
 
I wonder how long the City of Toronto run golf courses, like Dentonia or Don Valley, will be there for. I'd imagine at some point it may not be feasible anymore. While we're not in a drought situation or climate like California, I really would expect that the city land will be put to some other use, hopefully still as greenspace of some sort. In the meantime, it's certainly cool that we have city-run golf courses right in the heart of the city but financially and environmentally it might not be the highest and best use of that land.
 
I can think of two golf courses that have sold recently to developers off the top of my head. The first is York Downs in Markham, which is over 400 acres. Lots of land to develop in there. The second is a smaller course on Davis Drive in Newmarket, that one is beginning marketing already for the houses that are going to replace it.
 
I have to golf for business... I don't think there's anything I hate more with clients.

5+ hours out of my day to finish an 18-hole course.. Bloody hell I don't have the patience!
 
I have to golf for business... I don't think there's anything I hate more with clients.

5+ hours out of my day to finish an 18-hole course.. Bloody hell I don't have the patience!

Haha, I think I know how you feel. I actually believe that playing golf with business associates is an Abilene paradox. Most business partners and clients I golf with seem to enjoy the outing (and will always express gratitude and appreciation for the round) but I'd say only a fraction of them actually go out to play regularly. The majority don't even keep track of handicaps and such. Mulligans are par for the course, as is having a few beers along the way. The key purpose of the outing, really, is spending the time to talk and build relationships...which, of course, I believe can be done just as effectively off the golf course as well.

I do believe that many participate in business golf sessions because of this Abilene paradox! I am almost certain that if another event was proposed where individuals can relax, mingle, discuss business, have some fun and unwind...everyone would be just as eager and excited to join in, myself included.
 
Haha, I think I know how you feel. I actually believe that playing golf with business associates is an Abilene paradox. Most business partners and clients I golf with seem to enjoy the outing (and will always express gratitude and appreciation for the round) but I'd say only a fraction of them actually go out to play regularly. The majority don't even keep track of handicaps and such. Mulligans are par for the course, as is having a few beers along the way. The key purpose of the outing, really, is spending the time to talk and build relationships...which, of course, I believe can be done just as effectively off the golf course as well.

I do believe that many participate in business golf sessions because of this Abilene paradox! I am almost certain that if another event was proposed where individuals can relax, mingle, discuss business, have some fun and unwind...everyone would be just as eager and excited to join in, myself included.

Interesting, I didn't know about this paradox but it holds true in corporate environments (don't rock the boat is sort of a national pass-time in the corner office).

It's a great way to be in front of the client and have hours of one on one talk time, but either the client is really good (and really into it) or we all look miserable. Either way I'm really bad so at least I make the client look good (no matter how poorly they perform).
 
Reviving this thread to post this story from this morning's Globe and Mail on the future of Beacon Hill golf course on Yonge; though a couple of other courses are also mentioned.

 

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