ksun
Senior Member
It is not news that condos in Toronto are becoming smaller and smaller. However, I wonder, at what point the small size becomes just unacceptable?
I live in a one bedroom condo which is 640 sf, with a very spacious livingroom, a bedroom big enough to fit a queen bed, two pretty wide night stands and there is still plenty of space left for even a small desk and chair. A friend of mine lives in a two bedroom of 880 sf.
Now when I look at the new shiny glass towers with all sorts of "amenities", I am surprised by how much space people are sacrificing here. For example, studios of 315sf. One bedroom of under 450sf. Two bed-two bath of 690sf - how in the world can they put two bedroom and two bathroom in less than 700sf?
Is a livingroom still a livingroom when there is hardly enough space for a TV and a loveseat? One wall is occupied by the kitchen and one is the glass window you don't want to obstruct. You end up sitting feet away from your TV, and there is no room for things like a bookshelf, not to mention a dinning table.
Is a bedroom still a bedroom when there is no window, and the doors are the sliding ones? I thought these rooms used to be called "dens".
I know by living downtown, you have all the urban stuff at your door step and you are hardly at home. But really, you spend $300k in a property and end up hardly being in it... does it make sense?
I am one of those who never aspire large suburban houses with 4 bedrooms for 3 adults living in it, along with all the wasted space suburban people consider indispensible for their life (such as mud room, or family room, or rec-room etc), but the condos are becoming unacceptably small even for me.
IMO, a bachelor should be at least 400sf, one bedroom should be at least 550 sf. Two bedroom should start at 700sf to be livable. What do you guys think?
but people still go for those super tiny new condos, even when the older ones in the same price range is 30% larger. (I know condo fee is one factor, but it is not a legitimate reason - fees will rise as condos become older and all condos will become an old one. Plus, there are plenty of older condos with reasonable condo fees. It is not like the new condos with 60c/sf is low at all).
I live in a one bedroom condo which is 640 sf, with a very spacious livingroom, a bedroom big enough to fit a queen bed, two pretty wide night stands and there is still plenty of space left for even a small desk and chair. A friend of mine lives in a two bedroom of 880 sf.
Now when I look at the new shiny glass towers with all sorts of "amenities", I am surprised by how much space people are sacrificing here. For example, studios of 315sf. One bedroom of under 450sf. Two bed-two bath of 690sf - how in the world can they put two bedroom and two bathroom in less than 700sf?
Is a livingroom still a livingroom when there is hardly enough space for a TV and a loveseat? One wall is occupied by the kitchen and one is the glass window you don't want to obstruct. You end up sitting feet away from your TV, and there is no room for things like a bookshelf, not to mention a dinning table.
Is a bedroom still a bedroom when there is no window, and the doors are the sliding ones? I thought these rooms used to be called "dens".
I know by living downtown, you have all the urban stuff at your door step and you are hardly at home. But really, you spend $300k in a property and end up hardly being in it... does it make sense?
I am one of those who never aspire large suburban houses with 4 bedrooms for 3 adults living in it, along with all the wasted space suburban people consider indispensible for their life (such as mud room, or family room, or rec-room etc), but the condos are becoming unacceptably small even for me.
IMO, a bachelor should be at least 400sf, one bedroom should be at least 550 sf. Two bedroom should start at 700sf to be livable. What do you guys think?
but people still go for those super tiny new condos, even when the older ones in the same price range is 30% larger. (I know condo fee is one factor, but it is not a legitimate reason - fees will rise as condos become older and all condos will become an old one. Plus, there are plenty of older condos with reasonable condo fees. It is not like the new condos with 60c/sf is low at all).