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    Default YRT strike Oct 24, GO strike averted

    Surprised no one has started a thread about this, or even updated the current GO and YRT threads from what I can tell. Figured this would be a great place to post updates and discuss how it may affect you.

    For me getting to York, it is still possible since the 99 Yonge and 3 Thornhill bus routes aren't affected, but it would take much longer and I'm certain crowding on those routes is going to be atrocious. Unless I find people who I can carpool with, I am going to push the range of my new e-bike to get to class and back.


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    Tough luck for me. My preferred trip from Square One to Union is take the GO bus on midday. About 60 minutes, plus cycling from Union to University Ave. Now that trip will length to almost 1hr 45 mins! Slower trip via MiWay and TTC subway. Might well as bike all the way there, for similar time length.

    Is there any further details regarding the recent failed tentative agreement between GOTransit and ATU Local 1587?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsTehBean View Post
    Tough luck for me. My preferred trip from Square One to Union is take the GO bus on midday. About 60 minutes, plus cycling from Union to University Ave. Now that trip will length to almost 1hr 45 mins! Slower trip via MiWay and TTC subway. Might well as bike all the way there, for similar time length.

    Is there any further details regarding the recent failed tentative agreement between GOTransit and ATU Local 1587?
    Haven't heard anything, but I haven't been following too closely either. Theedia has been pretty hush about what is on the table, which probably means that the union's demands are reasonable while the employer is being a dick.

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    There's no GO strike tomorrow, but the majority of YRT services will be.

    Here's the list of routes affected or unaffected. Everything except TTC-operated routes and many Vaughan local routes (operated by Violia, which will not strike). Of course, Zum 501 will also still operate over most of Viva Orange. (Brampton settled with their ATU local earlier this year).

    http://www.yrt.ca/en/serviceupdates/strike.asp
    Last edited by ShonTron; 2011-Oct-24 at 00:16.

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    From the Star:

    http://www.thestar.com/news/article/...e-averted?bn=1

    York Region bus drivers to strike Monday, GO bus strike averted

    RICK MADONIK/TORONTO STAR
    Emily Jackson Staff Reporter

    Labour strife reached a boiling point amongst GTA transit workers as Monday morning’s rush-hour commute loomed.

    About 560 drivers and mechanics from York Region Transit and Viva express route were set to walk off the job at 4 a.m. Monday, said Bob Kinnear, who represents Viva workers as president of the Amalgamated Transit Union Local 113.

    “We’re prepared to stay off the job as long as it takes,” Kinnear said.

    As well, 1,500 GO bus drivers and workers were preparing to strike early Monday but the situation was resolved late Sunday night.

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    I was giving my friend a ride to York today, and while chatting he claimed that GO quietly raised its fares between Richmond Hill and York by 10 cents this week (from $4.20 to $4.30 for adult). I don't know what the adult fares are from RHC to York since I normally take the Viva the whole way, but I did take the GO once last week and noticed it deducted $4.20 from my Presto card, before refunding me credit for taking YRT to GO and my student discount.

    From what I can tell, student fares still seem to be the same at about $3.65. I'm thinking of taking the GO tomorrow from RHC, so I will post if my initial fare is still $4.20 or if it is now $4.30...

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    Default YRT 2011-2012 strike

    The YRT strike, which began on October 24th, continues to drag on with virtually no response from the region. This lack of action is unacceptable, as those who rely on transit are forced to endure long walks, rely on the aid of others, and resort to using routes that while not impacted by the strike, are less convenient and overburdened by their increase in passengers.

    It is my belief that the union is fighting for realistic wages and are not simply being greedy. In York Region we have some of the highest fares in Canada, and as such the employees should be compensated justly and not middle man contractors who do nothing but gouge their employees, riders, and taxpayers while walking away with obscene profits.

    This page however is for people who want to see regular service resume, regardless of where they stand on this debate. The collective bargaining process has not worked, and back to work legislation will likely be needed sooner or later. If our councilors, the ones which are supposed to represent the views of the people, choose not to act we will not be voting for our incumbents in the next municipal election.

    Here is a list of York Region Councilors:

    Aurora
    Mayor Geoff Dawe

    East Gwillimbury
    Mayor Virginia Hackson

    Georgina
    Mayor Robert Grossi
    Danny Wheeler

    King
    Mayor Steven Pellingrini

    Markham
    Mayor Frank Scarpitti (2006-present)
    Jim Jones
    Jack Heath
    Joseph Virgilio - appointed to replace the late Tony Wong (died 2009)
    Gordon Landon

    Newmarket
    Mayor A.J. (Tony) Van Bynen
    John Taylor

    Richmond Hill
    Mayor David Barrow
    Brenda Hogg
    Vito Spatafora (2006-present)
    Vaughan

    Mayor Maurizio Bevilacqua (2010-present)
    Joyce Frustaglio (2006-present)
    Mario Ferri (2006-present)
    Gino Rosati

    Whitchurch-Stouffville
    Mayor Wayne Emmerson

    Link to page: http://www.facebook.com/YRTBack2Work
    Link to petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/y...ork/signatures

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    Gosh, is the strike still going? There's been barely a mention in the media. I guess that demonstrate just how minor transit is in York Region. I hadn't realised how low ridership is up there ... there must be individual TTC surface routes that have ridership almost as high as the entire YRT combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfitz View Post
    Gosh, is the strike still going? There's been barely a mention in the media. I guess that demonstrate just how minor transit is in York Region. I hadn't realised how low ridership is up there ... there must be individual TTC surface routes that have ridership almost as high as the entire YRT combined.
    Glad to see that you're enjoying the opportunity to take a stab at the 905.

    System ridership clearly adds up to more than the 56 700 trips per day taken on the King Streetcar. Viva Blue alone has a daily ridership of over 20,000, which would put it among the upper tier of TTC surface routes.

    This strike is also not directly comparable to TTC strikes because services are subcontracted to a variety of companies, so not the entire system shuts down. That said, I think this is the first time that multiple companies have gone on strike at once.

    Based on the list of affected services, it seems that some of the Viva-complementing local services (1 Hwy 7, 98/99 Yonge, 77 Hwy 7...) are still running.
    Last time there was a Viva strike, there was chronic overcrowding on those routes and it was all over the media, but I haven't heard anything this time. Is there no overcrowding this time, or does the media just not care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reaperexpress View Post
    Glad to see that you're enjoying the opportunity to take a stab at the 905.

    System ridership clearly adds up to more than the 56 700 trips per day taken on the King Streetcar. Viva Blue alone has a daily ridership of over 20,000, which would put it among the upper tier of TTC surface routes.

    This strike is also not directly comparable to TTC strikes because services are subcontracted to a variety of companies, so not the entire system shuts down. That said, I think this is the first time that multiple companies have gone on strike at once.

    Based on the list of affected services, it seems that some of the Viva-complementing local services (1 Hwy 7, 98/99 Yonge, 77 Hwy 7...) are still running.
    Last time there was a Viva strike, there was chronic overcrowding on those routes and it was all over the media, but I haven't heard anything this time. Is there no overcrowding this time, or does the media just not care?
    Right, that was a very ignorant comment on his part ...
    YRT ridership is around 100K from what I remember, a bit less actually.

    Anyone have more recent statistics ?

    I actually don't agree with you that the fact there are alternative routes is why there is little media coverage, it wouldn't have mattered if the entire system is on strike. It's the silly media ... having said that, there was quite a bit of coverage last week.

    Also to the media's credit, there has been basically nothing to cover !! No progress, no talking, no nothing.
    If I had a penny for every time someone asked me why I was looking upů

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    This strike demonstrates that there is a clear difference between simply privatizing a service and actually going non union. If any of the services that Toronto contracts out are to unionized companies, strikes are in theory every bit as likely as they are now. Without having politicians who want to be re-elected running things, what is the incentive to resume talks?

    Having said that, unions are dispicable. Every YRT driver was told their wages before accepting the job, and no doubt made aware that due to the nature of the position, split shifts would be the norm, not the exception. Jealous of TTC drivers that earn more? Here's an idea: apply for a job at the TTC. Don't like split shifts? Change careers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reaperexpress View Post
    Glad to see that you're enjoying the opportunity to take a stab at the 905.
    I'm merely surprised at how irrelevant transit still is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfitz View Post
    I'm merely surprised at how irrelevant transit still is there.
    Recent statistics from September, 2011:

    Weekday ridership (including contracted TTC) is 107,328.

    Total year-to-date boardings were up 12.2%.

    Please stop saying that transit isn't relevant in York Region. It's simply not true. Ridership has been increasing dramatically over the last few years.

    If you want to argue about the numbers, fine, but your posts aren't contributing anything to the discussion.

    Source: http://www.york.ca/NR/rdonlyres/gjwd...+ridership.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfitz View Post
    I guess that demonstrate just how minor transit is in York Region.
    All the north-south routes in Markham are still running because they are operated by the TTC. Instead of taking a bus east-west, people are taking a TTC bus south to Steeles, the TTC Steeles bus over to whichever concession they need, and a TTC bus back north into Markham. It's hugely inconvenient, but it's feasible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrify View Post
    In York Region we have some of the highest fares in Canada, and as such the employees should be compensated justly and not middle man contractors who do nothing but gouge their employees, riders, and taxpayers while walking away with obscene profits.
    People can and will have whatever opinion they have on this ongoing strike and I would not attempt to sway them one way or the other. That said, this line had me wondering......if there is to be a correlation between fares and wages....is that not a vicous cycle? With (from what you said....no personal experience here) amongst the highest fares in Canada they could afford to provide the current level of service within their budgets/contracts/etc....if wages go up...does service not have to go down or, alternatively, fares go up again....at which time aren't we back saying "the fares are higher so the wages should be to?".

    Not sure how the relationship between fares and wages works....or should work.

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