In the long term it would be best if the sheppard line as it approached downsview, curves into a south-west direction with a platform adjacent to the current station but either below or above it because the tracks cannot intersect each other...
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Then the line would emerge outside and cut right through the Wilson yard on the western boundary (The way the Spadina cuts through the eastern boundary) and dip underground and curve once again into an east-west subway line under Wilson Ave.
Wilson Ave has far greater potential to be gentrified and has the ridership to support a subway line. This line could go up to Jane and Wilson.
In the extreme Long-term The line could then continue down Wilson and then down Albion and diagonally slice through Etobicoke intersecting with every major artery and diverting ridership from all routes.
It is very realistic that riders from Weston Rd, Islington, Kipling, and Martin Grove would switch to a diagonal subway to make their way downtown...via Jane.
Also in the Extreme Long-Term A jane subway from Bloor or Eglinton to Wilson would be a great connector and most probably the western leg of the DRL.
Wouldn't it be cool if you could take a subway from Albion Mall to Scarborough Town Centre? I know its nothing more than a dream but just sayin'
Albion could be served by an LRT line.
In order to connet Sheppard trains to Spadina extension, we would have to either veer the line south after Bathurst and arc it under the Wilson Heights area to turn north and alight west of Allen Rd somewhere between the Wilson and Downsview stations to join the existing tracks; or, continue straight under Sheppard and build the second Downsview station oriented E-W, then curve the tracks north-west just west of Sheppard and join the TYSSE tracks near Chesswood.
Both options would cost quite a bit.
Or another better option would be to simply move Etobicoke GO to the wide swath of empty land at Islington & 401 then the subway can also terminate there. Another LRT line along Rexdale could begin from there and go into Malton and beyond...
There is more transit oriented development opportunities at Islington & 401 by the former Molson building then there is at the industrial wasteland of what is now Etobicoke North GO
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While I approve the desicion not to try building the whole line in one shot, building it one stop at a time is the opposite extreme, potentially resulting in unnecessarily high per-km costs. Adding 3-4 stops at a time makes more sense.
Yeah, I can't imagine the economies of scale involved in building 1 stop at a time. Do you just leave the TBM down there and turn it on and off when money is flowing?
This idea smacks of desperation: ie We promised we'd built a subway line but we don't have money so let's at least get started with the first stop. Who builds major infrastructure this way?
Since the LRT was going to built in one shot I don't know how you can justify - politically or otherwise - building it in phases.
I guess the idea maybe is to launch the TBM into the ground at Don Mills and go east to Victoria Park. By the time it reaches Victoria Park the hope is that funding would then be available to push to Warden and so forth...
Also...is there any harm in keeping a TBM in the ground for some time without operating? I would think it is cheaper than having to extract it out of the ground each time.
Lastly, this is all moot if they decide to just do a cut n cover installation east of consumers. Why does everything have to be tbm? We are the only city to run an entire line under one specific street right? TBMs are good for the spadina extension because its going diagonally. Sheppard is just going under the street so lets do cut and cover!
Short pain for long term gain.
It's the major reason why we sold Sheppards at the same time as the province was lobbying for Spadina extension funding.
well its good to hear some news. i am pro lrt because i knew it could be done, done fast, and done cheap. I hope tho that if it starts it goes to at least warden.