It doesn't matter whether or not council chose to absolve Ford. Even if the motion failed, he would have still been guilty of a conflict of interest- of not excusing himself from the vote and debate. Of course, this is a somewhat miniscule and foolish thing to prosecute Ford on, but rules are there for a reason.
Anyways, from what I've heard, the the conflict trial won't be heard until next year. It'll be a long summer of Toronto politics.
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Anyone else think this whole thing smells like a plot to change the Ford-is-a-lame-duck narrative? Without denigrating Ruby's intelligence or Adam C-F's motives, this is the best thing that could happen to Ford. Whether he wins or loses, much of his slate of recent failures will be wiped clean.
Obviously Ford's not cunning enough to think this up, but is Towhey? I always figured Kouvalis was more of a plumber.
And before you laugh the thought out of your head, remember how Ford's campaign got Tory out of the way.
On the other hand, if Ruby wins, this will truly instill a persecution complex within Ford Nation-and as always, negative memories and feelings will overpower positive ones.
As for Tory, anyone who decides not to run based on a few callers on the radio probably wasn't serious about running in the first place.
"So we can wave all these off as petty details, an ever-growing pile of technicalities, but the details in question are the very safeguards that protect our democracy from being abused. In the mayor’s defence, you can argue—as many are—that the violations here appear relatively minor, and that removal from office is too harsh a penalty for the alleged violations of the rules. That sounds reasonable to me—overturning election results is a fairly steep penalty.
But that is an argument for which the legislation should be changed to allow lesser penalties. It is a big and dangerous leap to argue instead that the law should not be enforced. And the harsh penalties the law requires are not sensibly evidence that attempting to enforce the law is unfairly partisan.
We have rules protecting us against potential government corruption for a reason. We expect our elected officials—and especially our mayor—to obey those rules. It is not partisan to hope he will, and to demand that he should."
I know Ford spends his life doing what he wants because he thinks it's right, but Keenan makes a really good argument that (a) it's a frickin' slippery slope with the guy, and politicians in general and (b) he can't just say he's above the law and/or ignorant of the law. Keenan also makes a couple of good points about whether this is small beer or not and/or good optics for the left or not. Conclusion: Neither point matters.
That makes sense. But Keenan, and a lot of people around here, seem to think that the original infraction - soliciting money as if it was official city business - is not a scandal, because the money was for a charity.
Anybody who thinks that a charity cannot be used as an election slush fund, or create other ethical conflicts, is not following the saga of Michael Di Biase's Foundation up in Vaughan.
If anything, I think the MCIA should be TIGHTENED UP, to stop this kind of thing.
No it doesn't. The TCF itself has made it clear that has no oversight or control over the charity. They just provide "back office functions". See Janet Leiper's report: http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2...grd/CC52.1.pdf
Rob decides who gets hit up for money, he decides who gets the money, and he gets a complete list of the donors. He also includes campaign materials in the same envelope as the solicitation letter, and he boasts about his Foundation to voters when running for office (while grossly exaggerating how much money it has raised).
Even if you prefer not to think that the lobbyist donations are outright kickbacks for favours, this is still a good old fashioned scam, folks!
Yeah, but innocent until proven guilty, and proceed with caution...
Does this mean that any elected official can be drummed out of office for soliciting donations or selling raffle tickets or peanuts as a fund raising effort for their children's sports activities?