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Ontario looks to unload Crown corporations?

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Facing record $24.7-billion deficit, province considers privatizing major companies including LCBO, Hydro One and OLG

The cash-strapped Ontario government is looking into the sale of all or part of its collection of Crown corporations, including the provincial lottery company and the retail monopoly on liquor sales, to raise cash to close a $24.7-billion deficit this year.

The Liberal government of Premier Dalton McGuinty recently hired two banks with experience in privatizations, CIBC World Markets Inc. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc., and charged them with writing a blueprint for possible privatization of agencies, investment banking sources said.

The sale candidates include icons such as Hydro One Inc., the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp., the Liquor Control Board of Ontario and Ontario Power Generation, said the bankers, who asked to remain anonymous because the talks with the government are private.

The planned time frame for the initial study is short, just a couple of months, and then the government can decide whether to go ahead with any sales.

"The politicians have said they are willing to look at anything, that they don't want to prejudge the outcome," said one banker with knowledge of the government's plans. He said one concept being discussed is creating a "super-corporation" that would hold a number of provincially controlled companies, then selling a stake in that to public investors.

Ontario, like provinces across the country, is coping with a huge drop in government revenue because of the recession that has left it with the prospect of yawning deficits for years to come.

Without a dramatic and unexpected pickup in economic growth, there are few palatable options for closing the budget gaps, leaving governments weighing a combination of service cuts, tax increases and asset sales.

The New Brunswick government recently agreed to sell most of the assets of its provincial power utility to Hydro-Québec for $4.8-billion. The controversial sale was billed as a way to reduce debt. But it appears to have backfired on the Liberal government of New Brunswick, with a poll showing the party's support is sliding.

The Ontario government is three months into a review of how to best deliver services and since the last budget update, Finance Minister Dwight Duncan has said the government is looking at how to best manage the assets it owns.

"These assets are worth billions and billions of dollars, and I think it's incumbent upon us to look at all of them and to make sure that we're maximizing them," Mr. Duncan said in October after tabling the government's fall economic statement. "Don't draw conclusions at this point about that sort of undertaking."

Yesterday, a spokesperson for Mr. Duncan declined to comment on specific plans for Crown corporations.

Any plan to sell Crown corporations that touch the lives of every Ontario voter would likely run into opposition on a number of fronts, including from unionized employees. In 2001, Ontario's then-Conservative government planned a $5-billion initial public offering of Hydro One, which owns many of the power lines crisscrossing Ontario, but that was derailed, in part by a union-backed court challenge.

Bay Street sources said governments regularly look at asset sales without pulling the trigger and there is considerable skepticism among bankers that this time will be any different.

However, the potential paydays for the government could be huge should it move ahead. For example, the LCBO's valuation could top $10-billion, based on the trading prices of private liquor stores in Alberta. The government could also seek to keep control of some of the revenue streams from any assets it sold.

If Ontario does decide to sell Crown corporations, there will be no lack of buyers. The dependable infrastructure assets currently owned by provincial taxpayers are sought after by income-hungry individual and institutional investors, while the LCBO and gambling properties are viewed as steady businesses that are recession-resistant.

Sources say pension funds such as OMERS, which pays for the retirement of provincial employees, have already expressed an interest in the 604-outlet LCBO. The company made $1.4-billion in profit in 2008, almost all of which was handed over to the government in the form of dividends, and it has seen its profit rise for 15 straight years.

"The most attractive asset is Hydro One, if they do decide to sell, because it's clean, it's profitable and there's already a sense of familiarity with the business," said one investment banker with close ties to the Ontario government.

The other assets are more problematic for buyers because each has perceived problems - though the flipside of that is they would be more attractive for the government to shed. The banker said Ontario Lottery and Gaming, or OLG, has "governance issues" in the wake of scandals, while Ontario Power Generation's three nuclear stations have hard-to-quantify legacy costs, and the LCBO is considered "too political" to sell outright, due to public concerns with control on sales of spirits and wine.

A source close to the provincial Liberals say Mr. McGuinty is disenchanted with OLG, and would welcome an elegant exit from the casino and lottery business as long as it guaranteed the province could continue to receive income from it. The agency put $1.7-billion into provincial coffers last year.

"There are all sorts of capable casino and racetrack operators," the source said. "The Premier sees no reason to be in those businesses."

If the sale of entire Crown corporations is deemed unacceptable, Ontario could also opt to sell minority stakes, sources say, or sell individual assets such as power plants or transmission lines out of a large utility. Ontario Power Generation already has joint ventures on plants with private-sector companies such as TransCanada Corp.

The banks hired to look into potential sales have a background in helping governments sell assets. Both CIBC World Markets and Goldman Sachs were involved in the scuttled initial public offering of Hydro One, and the two investment dealers have worked on a number of other government privatizations, including the sale of British government-owned utilities.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-to-unload-crown-corporations/article1402033/
 
It strikes me as being very short sighted to sell income producing assets to help balance one years deficit, unless we are talking many many multiples of earnings.

LCBO profited 1.4B last year and is worth approx 10B (based on the article) that is only 7-8 years worth of profits just doenst make alot of sense to me. Unless the gov't somehow is able to keep 500M in yearly revenue streams or some other relatively high number I just dont see how it makes sense.

Obviously it might make more sense on a case by case basis but why sell your profitable assets. Would make more sense to focus on assets that have value but are not able to be run properly by the gov't and arent contributing much in the way of annual profits.
 
Privatizing OLG makes about as much sense as privatizing the Ontario Receiver General. What would you really be selling other than revenue? If law permitted private lottery corporations they would already exist. The start up costs of a ball machine isn't exactly a big barrier to entry.

Privatizing Hydro One creates a private company where customers will not be able to switch to a competitor. There is only on power line network per neighbourhood and it is impractical to have more. Privatizing this makes as much sense as privatizing local streets. The best the government can do is keep Hydro One public and tender out more contracts to competitive bids.

Privatizing the LCBO is the only one of these three which could be done. I doubt the sale price would make up for the lost revenue in the long term. The LCBO seems to be well run and any private company buying it would inherit the union so I question whether or not they could make it more efficient.
 
Selling the LCBO doesn't make much sense; you can sell it for $10 billion but thats a one time income and then lose $1.4 billion in annually revenue after that. Can someone tell me how that makes sense? :confused:
 
Selling the LCBO doesn't make much sense; you can sell it for $10 billion but thats a one time income and then lose $1.4 billion in annually revenue after that. Can someone tell me how that makes sense? :confused:

the 1.4 billion yearly loss becomes someone else's problem in the long run.
 
He said one concept being discussed is creating a "super-corporation" that would hold a number of provincially controlled companies, then selling a stake in that to public investors.

That might not be a bad idea, though it does raise the question on the issue of governance. Presumably they are looking at a 51/49 split that would allow the government to retain control - and I can see pension funds snapping it up given how much of a cash cow LCBO and OLG is.

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That might not be a bad idea, though it does raise the question on the issue of governance. Presumably they are looking at a 51/49 split that would allow the government to retain control - and I can see pension funds snapping it up given how much of a cash cow LCBO and OLG is.

AoD


These things are cash cows, and for private equity/pension fund clients that's a beautiful thing.
 
Maybe the Ontario government should consider selling franchisee stores of the LCBO. Along the same line as the grocery chains with their franchisees (Food Basics, No Frills, etc.). Maybe call them something different, ie. The Liquor Store.
 
The government commissioned a report in 2005 on opening up the alcohol market... they recommended a way that the government could get out of retail and wholesaling while maintaining its $1.5 billion cut
http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/consultations/basr/report.html

Exactly. Increase competition by privatizing LCBO and letting other players in. Then tax alcohol higher (direct taxes, liquor licenses, whatever) to recover lost revenue. It's feasible. This way the government would monotize LCBO's capital value while continue to collect the same or even more revenue in the future.
 
That would of course put a big dent in the value of the LCBO. LCBO faces the challenge that with its legacy labour agreements and all-around high cost model, when grocery stores and Wal-mart start selling booze (even more than they already are), it could put a big dent in their marketshare. So, I'm not sure LCBO is worth all that much, depending on whether it owns or leases most of its stores.
 
The LCBO reminds me of that goose I used to have. The one that laid golden eggs. It was pretty cool. But it took, like, all day to lay an egg, and I was pretty hungry so I killed it and ate it. Delicious.
 
Nonsense. If it were privatized, we could continue to extract exactly as much revenue as we do now from it, by levying higher alcohol excise taxes and opening up the market.
 
Nonsense. If it were privatized, we could continue to extract exactly as much revenue as we do now from it, by levying higher alcohol excise taxes and opening up the market.

i'd be weary of raising booze taxes too high. it would encourage more black market activities.
 
The LCBO reminds me of that goose I used to have. The one that laid golden eggs. It was pretty cool. But it took, like, all day to lay an egg, and I was pretty hungry so I killed it and ate it. Delicious.

This was mentioned earlier, when you hear that huge profit that they "made" - they include the taxes related to alcohol. The actual profit (without the taxes) is actually quite small. Private companies of course can't play games like that when reporting numbers (of course the tax would not be theirs, but technically speaking the crown corporation does not get the tax as well - that goes to the government general revenues).
 

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