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    This is a fairly logical predictable pattern. In...

    This is a fairly logical predictable pattern. In 1989 the market turned. The real estate agents stuck it out for a couple of years and with decreasing prices and sales falling people got out. The...
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    Ben, this is reassuring. However, the reality is...

    Ben, this is reassuring. However, the reality is that Fortress as a company if I am not mistaken has been around only during the boom times so this is hardly a resounding endorsement. I believe...
  3. ^^^ Somehow this must be a reflection of the...

    ^^^
    Somehow this must be a reflection of the temperature with expansion / contraction or alternatively wind?
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    the problem is people are going all in on real...

    the problem is people are going all in on real estate, the stock market and every asset class. This is driving up the price of everything. People are taking the attitude that it is a good time to...
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    ^^^ The lack of knowledge out there is shocking....

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    The lack of knowledge out there is shocking. Clearly the Ontario economy is not doing well, the debt levels rising and yet the article says people think Ontario is doing better. It simply is...
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    Also fromt the quote: CN Tower wrote:...

    Also fromt the quote: CN Tower wrote: Theoretically I agree with you. However, practically speaking people don't utilize very much leverage in the stock market and it isn't as easily available or...
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    A point CN Tower: If the market drops, and you...

    A point CN Tower:
    If the market drops, and you are levered at 3:1, your equity drops pretty fast if there is a 20% correction. About 2/3 of your equity is gone. Also, real estate is not liquid, so...
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    [/B] Agree 100%. It is just this that...

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    Agree 100%.
    It is just this that frightens me...people taking on risks they don't appreciate for very little return. Those who lever that risk are going to suffer a lot. The problem is the...
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    ^^^ One other point DearSummer. You chose US...

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    One other point DearSummer.
    You chose US equities and state they out performed. Correct for C$ escalation and the outperformance is not nearly as good though recently the C$ has gone down. ...
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    I concur. However, choosing the past 5 years is...

    I concur. However, choosing the past 5 years is choosing a point when the stock markets had halved. Of course, the simple recovery means a 100% increase.
    As someone who was invested in the market...
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    This is a bit disengenuous. Sure, those who got...

    This is a bit disengenuous. Sure, those who got in in 2009 or 2010 are better off. How many were smart enough to get out in 2008 before the 50% downdraft....not many.
    Real estate at most was down...
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    James: I have been accumulating slowly. I...

    James:
    I have been accumulating slowly. I occasionally sell but I am not intending selling no matter what.
    Those who buy to live I think this is a foolish game.
    Those who buy to invest have other...
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    ^^^ Yes. Just figuring out when is what is...

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    Yes. Just figuring out when is what is difficult.
    And if it is a major meltdown, there will be a massive wealth transfer from those extended presently and those sitting patiently or rather...
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    I have heard that the high end is in demand but...

    I have heard that the high end is in demand but not at the prices of new product.
    What is apparently in demand are larger units 1500 to 2000 sq.ft. in better buildings though not necessarily new...
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    [/B] I agree the long term trend was up. ...

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    I agree the long term trend was up. Also, Toronto benefitted tremendously in the 70's and 80's from the Montreal mass exodus as your name suggests you are acutely aware of.
    $289 to $215 is...
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    To your and Ex Montrealer Girls comment Eug: I...

    To your and Ex Montrealer Girls comment Eug:
    I think the greatest disservice to a whole generation of younger people is the HGTV channel. The expectation is that granite, SS appliances, marble...
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    To your first point about the costs, I agree that...

    To your first point about the costs, I agree that with increasing costs more and more money will go to lodging. However, we see that in all major cities around the world. There will be people who...
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    I will respond quickly as this is off topic and...

    I will respond quickly as this is off topic and the mods may get upset. I am by no means an expert.
    First of all Tanking is a gross exaggeration (it was 4% in Portugal, Germany and France 1.5%,...
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    Great post Condo George. 1 point though. The...

    Great post Condo George.
    1 point though. The wealthy are sitting on more cash than at any time in recent years and not investing large amounts. Perhaps it is because the wealthy have a lot of...
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    ^^^ "But it's not like I am getting a statement...

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    "But it's not like I am getting a statement every month and going, "Oooooo, look at how much I made in interest!" the way I might have in my parents' time.

    If I understand banking correctly,...
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    ^^^ I am old enough Ex-Montreal Girl that I...

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    I am old enough Ex-Montreal Girl that I believe you buy what you can afford to purchase as opposed to what you can afford to carry.
    I am constantly amazed watching my kids friends....they only...
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    From the National Post on line quoting the New...

    From the National Post on line quoting the New York Times:

    I believe this article summarizes my feelings and why those who are smug about real estate should appreciate that this is a phenomenon...
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    ^^^ ExMontreal Girl: Thanks for showing the...

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    ExMontreal Girl:
    Thanks for showing the other side. And mortgage lenders have a vested interest to be quiet.
    The reality is that if the governments had not lowered interest rates with QE I...
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    Condo George: Like most pendulums, the real...

    Condo George:
    Like most pendulums, the real estate pendulum will overswing in both directions.
    I personally don't know if/when real estate will correct. I suspect it will. Psychology plays a...
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    As a small landlord with a few properties that I...

    As a small landlord with a few properties that I manage, you need a few good people for appropriate repairs unless you are very handy. It is easy until it is not. Bad renters, non payment can all...
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