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The article embellished the facts. It says the air quality at stations are bad but then talks about how people spend one hour on TTC on average. Most people don't spend 1hr on the subway. The train air is mich better as it's filtered through the HVAC, which I hope gets cleaned once in a while. The stations maybe bad but most people don't spend more than 5 mins in a station waiting for for a train.
It takes 45 minutes to go from end to end and how many do that in the first place for line 2? The average time for me is 25 minutes unless there is a problem on the line with 1-8 minutes on the platform, depending on the time of the day. Can't say much about 1 since I don't spend much time on it in the first place and my trips are short ones.
 
I rather see the TTC do something out of the box. Once the implement WiFi on trains, they can make an app that will receive info on the current location. A user can simply downtown the app, set the destination and it can alert the user when they should get off. It can also receive info for delays and where to wait for shuttle buses. For the not so tech-savvy people, just put up more maps on the platform or concourse.
Such an app already exist just look up Citymapper it uses information from your GPS location and wifi as well as Next bus data along with standard travel times.
 
I could only find the abstract of the air quality article. But is this situation all that bad? It says it's mostly iron. Surely that's not all that harmful (frankly I would've thought a bit of iron would be beneficial). On the one hand I'm surprised we surpassed Montreal, since they're 100% underground. But they use rubber wheels so I guess less friction. But wouldn't that create rubber dust, which may be worse?
Iron dust is quite toxic. Putonium, one of the most dangerous metals known, is virtually harmless if eaten, deadly if inhaled. Same with Mercury. It's not what you swallow from fillings that's the concern, it's the gaseous form if inhaled. In all fairness, filling amalgam is much more stable in almost all cases that initial concern indicated.

What surprises me is that this is that Iron is only element or compound measured for so far in the TTC's case. Toronto's subway tunnels are filthy. You can smell it. You can taste it. In a welding or metal shop, you'd expect this, and take precautions (or at least be expected to).

What's astounding is that yet again, Toronto is late to the awareness game:

Subway steel dust: a gaping hole in public health research » Scienceline
scienceline.org/2011/10/subway-steel-dust-a-gaping-hole-in-public-health-research/
Oct 11, 2011 - Workers in the New York City subway are currently building an extension to ... found that subway workers were not being exposed to toxic steel dust and ... says Chillrud: larger in diameter, enriched with iron, manganese and ...
Steel dust in the New York City subway system as a source of ... - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC)
by SN Chillrud - ‎2005 - ‎Cited by 65 - ‎Related articles
Steel dust in the New York City subway system as a source of manganese, chromium, ... Hazardous air pollutants, Iron, Manganese, Metro, Steel dust, Subway, ...
Airborne particulate metals in the New York City subway: A pilot study ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC)
by DS Grass - ‎2010 - ‎Cited by 36 - ‎Related articles
(2008) also found that subway dust was more genotoxic than Fe3O4, Fe2O3, CuO, .... Iron, manganese, and chromium can have toxic biological effects by ...
A new look at inhalable metalliferous airborne particles on rail subway ...
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004896971401451X
by T Moreno - ‎2015 - ‎Cited by 22 - ‎Related articles
Oct 18, 2014 - Most particles breathed on rail subway platforms are highly ... as some iron species are reported to be more toxic than others (Park et al., 2014). ..... a) Agglomerate of steel wheel/rail splinters and mineral dust particles; ...
Steel Dust Generated By New York City's Subway System Affects The ...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/01/040106072837.htm
Jan 6, 2004 - ... subway significantly increases the total amount of airborne iron (Fe), ... and levels of personal exposures to potentially toxic air pollutants in ...
Traveling By Subway May Be a Health Hazard Due To Toxic Dust
preventdisease.com/.../042613_Traveling-By-Subway-May-Be-a-Health-Hazard-Due-...
Apr 26, 2013 - Traveling By Subway May Be a Health Hazard Due To Toxic Dust. ... like iron, copper and nickel, could have damaging effects on health.
The London Underground: dust and hazards to health | Occupational ...
oem.bmj.com › Archive › Volume 62, Issue 6
by A Seaton - ‎2005 - ‎Cited by 180 - ‎Related articles
The dust comprised by mass approximately 67% iron oxide, 1–2% quartz, and ..... In order to place the toxicity of the tunnel dusts in context we have chosen .... to manganese, chromium and iron from steel dust and New York's subway system.
Travelling on the Tube could be bad for your health because the air is ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/.../Travelling-Tube-bad-health-air-rich-toxic-dust.html
Apr 24, 2013 - Now there are the effects of toxic dust to worry about ... showed that underground particles were very rich in metals, especially iron and copper.
Subway dust may trigger lung damage | Washington D.C. Metro From ...
https://washington-dc-metro.com/2011/05/03/subway-dust-may-trigger-lung-damage/
May 3, 2011 - For balance, this article references a study done in the NYC subway system that ... that comes from the brakes is composed of both pad material and iron. ... Tunnel dust may not be hazardous, but if it is I would be willing to bet ...
Steel dust in the New York City subway system as a source of ...
https://uic.pure.elsevier.com/.../steel-dust-in-the-new-york-city-subway-system-as-a-sour...
by SN Chillrud - ‎2005 - ‎Cited by 63 - ‎Related articles
Sep 6, 2005 - Results from the TEACH (Toxic Exposure Assessment, a Columbia and ... Hazardous air pollutants; Iron; Manganese; Metro; Steel dust ...

That's just the first page of Google hits, there's lots more on-line.

Toronto's challenge isn't just to vacuum the tunnels, it's to *power wash* them, preferably with a reactive wash to change the pH of any particles left, or the grunge the particles are clinging to. It's not just Fe itself, or any of the myriad of other elements and molecules, it's their *form* that multiplies the reactive toxicity.
 
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Though honestly it sound a little opportunistic to me - I mean, no one at the union raised an OH&S finger regarding air quality until now even knowing how messy/dusty/dirty the tunnels are?

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Not sure why you are trying to let the TTC off the hook. This is basic OHSA. As an employer, the TTC has an obligation to do it's it's due diligence and to provide a healthy and safe workplace, especially when they are made aware of a health and safety issue. It would be like receiving the report on the Russell Hill crash and not doing a fucking thing to change their procedures.

You also have no idea whether or not the Union has raised an issue of air quality in the past, so unless you can reference an article that makes mention of that fact, your assertion is completely baseless.
 
Not to diminish the potential effects of the particulates in the subway today they can't be too much worse than when the Gloucester cars used cast iron brake shoes, which gave off tons of iron dust, as those cars had only the friction brakes to stop them (no dynamic/electric braking). Those shoes were replaced by friction material shoes, also used on the Hawker and MLW cars. Those friction material shoes contained asbestos for a period of time as did the backing plates. Later, asbestos was removed from the pad material and was only in the backing plates. Asbestos was finally totally eliminated only in 1980. I imagine the friction pads haven't changed much in the past few years. The Gloucester cars had opening windows so one could really inhale the brake dust and I don't imagine the MLW and older Hawker cars had any high quality air filtration so operators and passengers alike were getting a lot of exposure.

In any case subway operators have been exposed to high levels of various particulates for decades at supposedly "safe" levels so anything that improves the working conditions should be an imperative under today's standards.
 
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It just might get the TTC off their broken rail and start a 'hygiene' program again. Stopping the dust is going to be impossible, but just like good housekeeping, you sweep up and clean as it gets dirty. The TTC had best invest in some tunnel washing trains and quick.

Here's one real cheap:
Have one to sell? Sell now
Details about 1974 View Toronto Transit Commission Subway Tunnel Washing Train

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Price:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-View-T...739911?hash=item21183f9147:g:f70AAOSw8w1X9q3U

Subway tunnel washing makes a difference: check out these pics of grime-free tunnel walls
by Steve Hymon , April 11, 2013

The clean portion of the wall is on the right; the waiting-to-be-cleaned section on the left.

Crews continue to make progress in the long term tunnel power washing project in the Red and Purple Line tunnels. The above photos show what the walls look like after being cleaned — they're now dust and grime free!

Work began at Union Station and is moving at a pace of roughly 200 feet a night. The cleaning is being done on Sunday through Thursday nights after 9 p.m.; the washing is the reason that Red Line trains are running 20 minutes after p.m. and Purple Line trains are only running between Wilshire/Vermont and Wilshire/Western.

All liquids from the cleaning process are being recaptured and properly disposed of by Metro.
http://thesource.metro.net/2013/04/...ck-out-these-pics-of-grime-free-tunnel-walls/

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So is this thing still around or did some short-sighted git have it sold off or scrapped?
It's a damn good question, and there have been many over the years...at the time the tunnels were a *lot* cleaner than they are now. Does anyone else remember when the tunnels were cleaner? It's not just the tunnels that are black now, it's the stations too. And not just a shadow, but solid black grime.
 
In any case subway operators have been exposed to high levels of various particulates for decades at supposedly "safe" levels so anything that improves the working conditions should be an imperative under today's standards.
Excellent post, and the following pertains to the GO locomotive emissions (ostensibly less with Tier IV, but still questionable) and all diesel particulates, but also illustrates how pervasive toxic particles can be, brake dust or otherwise.

Thursday's London Times (behind subscription, to respect their copyright, I'll only post snippets, the story will be carried by other media in the next while)
Deadly diesel particles from toxic air penetrate the heart
Kat Lay, Health Correspondent


April 27 2017, 12:01am, The Times

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A new study has shown how airborne particles get into the bloodstream and gather at points of weakness, causing heart problemsLewis Whyld/Press Association

Scientists have proved that deadly particles of pollution can get into the bloodstream by asking volunteers to breathe in microscopic specks of gold.

Research has shown that particles a thousand times smaller than the width of a human hair can pass through the lungs. It was demonstrated for the first time that they gather in the most vulnerable areas of blood vessels.

Experts said that the study provided the “missing link” between airborne nanoparticles, often generated by vehicle emissions, and the increase in levels of poor heart health as pollution levels rise.

Campaigners said it added fresh weight to their calls for government action on air quality.

[...]

As part of the study, published in the journal ACS Nano, participants inhaled nanoparticles of gold. The harmless specks can be easily measured in the body, unlike carbon.

Gold was detected in the participants’ blood and urine within 24 hours, and could still be measured three months after the initial exposure.

The study also asked patients at high risk of stroke who were due to have surgery to inhale the gold. Analysis of clogging material removed from their arteries the next day showed that the particles accumulated in fatty deposits inside blood vessels.

Mark Miller, lead researcher, from the University of Edinburgh, said: “These findings suggest that ultrafine nanoparticles in air pollution may well do the same thing. They will enter the blood and accumulate at sites of vascular disease. And while gold is not a very reactive particle, environmental particles are highly reactive. It doesn’t take large amounts of these particles. If they reach these susceptible areas it can have serious health consequences.”

[...]

Current clean-air regulations focus on larger particles rather than nanoparticles. Yet the scientists believe that the really small particles are the most dangerous. Professor Newby suggested that scientists were looking in the wrong place.

Jeremy Pearson, associate medical director at the British Heart Foundation, which co-funded the research, said: “There is no doubt that air pollution is a killer and this study brings us a step closer to solving the mystery of how air pollution damages our cardiovascular health.
[...]
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...-from-toxic-air-penetrate-the-heart-x2gch8htn

Pretty sobering. It's still a lot safer to take the TTC than being stuck in traffic, but the TTC, GO and others still have a responsibility to make their customer and employee environments as clean and safe as possible.

Edit to Add: It's already hit the general media:
Nanoparticles can travel from lungs to blood, possibly explaining ...
Science Daily-16 hours ago
... Duffin, Nicholas L. Mills. Inhaled Nanoparticles Accumulate at Sites of Vascular Disease. ACS Nano, 2017; DOI: 10.1021/acsnano.6b08551 ...
New study finds how air pollution leads to heart attack, stroke
Hindustan Times-2 hours ago
How a tiny speck of exhaust soot can kill you
Irish Independent-5 hours ago
Air pollution: 'Heart disease link found'
BBC News-18 hours ago
As government delays pollution plan, study shows how killer ...
The Ecologist-19 hours ago
Deadly air pollution can get into the bloodstream, 'smoking gun ...
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Googling for the history of complaints on the "grime" in subway tunnels and some station walls, complaints peaked about a decade ago. It's unfair to judge the present condition to then, but it is fair to compare the condition to last year, and Steve Munro has blog piece on it:
https://stevemunro.ca/2016/04/19/why-are-subway-cars-on-bloor-danforth-so-dirty/

The main issue is the state of B-D subway cars, but brake dust grime re-curs many times in the posts, and how the degree of the problem was never the case with earlier iterations of the system.

Brake dust is going to be an ongoing issue, and for good reason.
 
There were reports (see Report of the Working Group on Air Quality in the Toronto Subway System) dating back to 1980 by MOE/MOL and TTC - the main concern at the time stems from asbestos and lead in brake shoes, though the findings was that everything was within the then limits.

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Since the following research was published, the story linked last night in today's Times of London and other media has proven the causative link as described below. The Ont Min of Health study from almost forty years ago, just four years after seat-belts became mandatory, and many health matters were down-played (dangers of smoking, etc) just isn't going to cut it.

The TTC had best act, and act now. This story is not going away, nor should it.
Is the air in underground subways harming our health?
New research from Southampton University has shown that ultrafine dust particles – which are unregulated in the UK – are metal rich and more likely to cause health problems, such as cancer and emphysema, in workers and passengers than the larger, regulated dust particles.



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In March 2013, new research from the University of Southampton was published in Environmental Science & Technology, which raised a question mark over how safe ultrafine dust is to workers and regular travellers on the London Underground.

The Southampton team - which included the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) - collected ultrafine airborne dust (PM0.1) from a mainline underground station underneath an airport in Europe, as well as larger particles: coarse PM10 (which have a diameter of ten micrometres or less) and ?ne PM2.5 (which have a diameter of 2.5 micrometres or less).

"The ultrafine dust was at least as rich in metals as the larger dust particles and, therefore, taken together with their increased surface area to volume ratio, it is of potential significance in understanding the risks of working and travelling in the underground," said Matt Loxham, PhD student at the University of Southampton, and part of the study's research team.

"These tiny dust particles have the potential to penetrate the lungs and the body more easily, posing a risk to someone's health."

According to the researchers, while coarse dust is deposited in the conducting airways of the body (such as nasal passages and bronchi) and the fine dust is able to reach the bronchioles (smaller airways), the ultrafine dust can reach the deepest areas of the lungs and into the alveoli.

They concluded that there is evidence that ultrafine dust can evade the protective barrier lining the airways (the epithelium), and enter underlying tissue and the circulation, meaning that the toxicity of ultrafine particles may not be limited to the airways, but may involve the cardiovascular system, liver, brain and kidneys.

The Trade Union Congress (TUC) confirms in its Dust in the Workplace report that "the two most serious health problems caused by dust are cancers of the lungs, throat and nose, and other lung conditions called Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD) that includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema."
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While conclusions about London Underground's air quality cannot be drawn from research from another underground station in Europe - Loxham says there are "large differences in airborne particle concentrations across different underground railway networks" caused by a number of different factors, such as ventilation and braking systems, wheel type and system age - the report could mean that PM0.1 particles are tested in the future.

Loxham believes the reason they are not currently regulated is due to the "relative infancy of research on the potential health effects of PM0.1 compared to PM10 and PM2.5".

He said: "In our study, although PM0.1 were the least-represented PM fraction in terms of mass, their mass concentration nonetheless exceeded World Health Organisation 24-hour limits for both PM10 and PM2.5 [24 hour average particle exposure of 50 and 25 mg/m3 for PM10 and PM2.5, respectively], while we found underground PM0.1 to be at least as rich in transition metals as PM10 and PM2.5."

While there is much previously published work suggesting the air quality in environments such as steel mills or welding plants, which are rich in airborne metals can impact negatively on health, little research has been carried into the effects of working in an underground railway station - a similarly metal-rich environment.
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http://www.railway-technology.com/features/feature-air-in-underground-subways-harming-health/

And London is enacting a ban on diesel usage at this very time, for good reason.
A campaign led by medical professionals is calling for all diesel cars to be banned from London.

Doctors Against Diesel claim 9,400 Londoners a year die prematurely from breathing in toxic fumes from diesel engines.

Paris, Madrid, Mexico City and Athens have committed to a ban on diesel vehicles by 2025.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-38274792

London has now committed to same. Yesterday's platitudes are not tomorrow's standards.
London Mayor Makes Plans for Cleaner Air
BY JOSH COHEN | APRIL 24, 2017

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To combat the longstanding problem, London Mayor Sadiq Khan has proposed two measures to discourage people from driving older cars in the city. The first, set to start this October, is called the T-Charge. It will charge drivers whose vehicles don’t meet emissions standards 10 British pounds (nearly $13 U.S.) to enter the city center. In 2019, Khan plans to implement the Ultra-Low Emission Zone (ULEZ), a stricter evolution of the existing (and mostly ineffectual) Low Emission Zone that imposes fees on so-called dirty vehicles.

In a press release announcing his plans, Khan said, “The air in London is lethal and I will not stand by and do nothing,” and said the proposed fees are “critically needed to safeguard Londoners from our air quality health crisis.” [...]
https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/london-charge-driving-pollution-diesel-ban

Let's not lose track of the measurements made in the Toronto subway:
Toronto Subway Pollution Levels Comparable To Beijing: Study
 

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