the lemur
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... plus the fact Tory 'endorsed' Doug in 2010, Ma Ford's assertion that the family would 'let' Tory be mayor and then it would be 'Robbie's turn', etc.
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... plus the fact Tory 'endorsed' Doug in 2010, Ma Ford's assertion that the family would 'let' Tory be mayor and then it would be 'Robbie's turn', etc.
Videodrome
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An update.
JWBF
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Yes, quite the similarities, especially since Lyndon was in his 30's in the 50's.
Exactly. There are also shades of the "Family Compact".
animatronic
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Family Compact is completely different. This isn't a network of business and political elites running the province - the current iteration of the FC is people like Tory/Richardson/Pritchard/Mcguinty/Navigator etc...
At best the Fords were the poor man's Koch Brothers, using fund raising to push a neocon agenda.
Jimmi T
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It seems anyone who ever undergoes treatment for something is in "good spirits" afterwards.
Videodrome
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I wonder if attending council is an option now.
It was always optional for Rob.
JWBF
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You should investigate the connections of the Conservatives to big business through the history of Ontario, anyway, as I said, shades. Basically the Fords have been trying to be part of the whole "made man" situation since Doug Sr. was kicked out of being a MPP and his death (and of course Flaherty's more recent death.) The Ford Fester meet and greets are just a part of trying to revive the glory days of the political power the Conservatives have ceded. The Liberals may be taking the lead at the moment, however, the game is the same and the players have not changed, just their visibility.
I have no problem with this fact, however, as stated, the Fords don't really belong to the elite, just dubious connections.
animatronic
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The Family Compact wielded real power in 19th Century UC/CW. No true analogies in today's world, but probably fair to say there are a multiple overlays of politically powerful networks. However, I don't think the Fords were ever close to the decision-making centres of any of them. At most Momma Ford terrorized everyone within throwing distance, but she raised enough money that any aspiring conservative was forced to sit on the plastic-covered furniture and take in a lecture.
Roy's Square
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Council is scheduled for the 9th and the 10th, so I guess he'll be a have a good week and half to recover. Plus, theres a lot of budget stuff, so lots of those windmills at which he loves to tilt.
Roy's Square
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In other news: I'm just finishing up Mark Towhey's book and must say that it is actually quite rivetting in places, fills in some gaps, and gives a different point of view on events I used to think we'd already figured out.
The best bits by far involve Doug, who turns out to dumber and meaner and more self-serving than we've ever even imagined here. Just one example: He literally believed that, should Rob die in office, he should become mayor…since the people of Toronto had voted for the Ford family to lead them. There are turns in the narrative where you have to wonder if it might've been Doug who tipped Rob over the edge.
Towhey has his failings—objectivity being one of them—but some of the best bits of the book are when he forgoes the self-aggrandizement and reveals some real feeling. He may be a con, but I can at least imagine sitting down with him and enjoying a beer or two .
The best bits by far involve Doug, who turns out to dumber and meaner and more self-serving than we've ever even imagined here. Just one example: He literally believed that, should Rob die in office, he should become mayor…since the people of Toronto had voted for the Ford family to lead them. There are turns in the narrative where you have to wonder if it might've been Doug who tipped Rob over the edge.
Towhey has his failings—objectivity being one of them—but some of the best bits of the book are when he forgoes the self-aggrandizement and reveals some real feeling. He may be a con, but I can at least imagine sitting down with him and enjoying a beer or two .
JWBF
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What part of the term "shades" is confusing for you? Yes it is true (if you don't count the Free Mason/NWO/Illuminati conspiracy theories) that no true analogs of the Family Compact exist today, however, the imperialism, fascisms and oligarchies do exist in North America despite testimonies to the contrary.
If you want to be picky, as it appears, the Clique du Château is the separate political movement in Quebec or Lower Canada that such as the Family Compact in Ontario or Upper Canada was also overthrown/forced underground by Responsible Government.
The Fords at least had their connections to the likes of Harris through Doug Sr. and Harper through Flaherty also by way of Doug Sr. Apparently the connections don't mean much anymore, especially with Harris due to the Fords inability to produce the affects/effects desired. Doug Jr. has been shut out of the front office but it remains to be seen if he can wheedle himself into the so called board room or rather fishing lodge of power.
adma
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In recent times, I'd say Paul Godfrey has definitely qualified as the de facto head of a Family Compact-cum-Tammany network...
adma
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