Rob Ford's Toronto

[dt_toronto_geek]

Depends on the location of the tumours. If they're big enough, they show up pretty clearly. They look at the scans the same day so they might have had bad news today. Even if he was scanned a few months ago and they thought it was just a small benign tumour, they might have got a surprise today. You never know what's around the corner as you age. He definitely ticks a lot of the boxes for colon cancer risk, I wouldn't be surprised if they found something today.

As I understand it, a CT can still miss things - it's by no means perfect, but it's the best visual diagnoses available to Doctors, probably even better than opening him up and doing a visual inspection of an area after removing something like a cyst on an organ. The only thing better is an autopsy, downside: you have to be dead. Remember, they already have blood panels, and they can often tell a story too.

 

[casita]

and also Mikey was already there and ready to carry the torch.

"To you Mikey from failing hands."

 

[pattycakes]

The city has great benefits. Not to be morbid, but it includes a $500,000 life insurance policy. I know he has Deco and a trust fund, but what the heck.

What is the Deco plan so crappy that he can't use that? Or let me guess, they don't provide any. He's the same guy bitching about the rich benefits the employees at the City get, what a hypocrite.

 

[TJ O'Pootertoot]

After how soft she was today?

The 3-ply stuff with the lotion that never goes on sale.

I dunno why people are getting all hung up on insurance and health plans. He's a longtime municipal employee and was born with a silver spoon. money is not the issue here. It's ego or, at best, a deluded notion of "public service," but kicking someone (even Mikey!) off the ballot so you can run, knowing you can't campaign and likely won't serve much is just selfish.

 

[pattycakes]

The 3-ply stuff with the lotion that never goes on sale.

Yup, that soft. Good one.

 

[casita]

I had posted the insurance theory earlier. I am quite sure that contributed to the decision to get Rob to run. I hope he loses

Nobody leaves the City payroll voluntarily. Only by death or retirement.

 

[Angelunatic]

Anyone would "push for early results" but they're acting like he's dead or dying. We still don't even know that he has cancer - that's why they do a biopsy. And, again, if they thought it was THAT bad - that something metastasized or it might well be terminal - why on earth would he sign up for a council seat? This needs to be pointed out again and again and again.

He knows he can win that seat, literally lying in his hospital bed between now and Oct. 27. But why would that even cross your mind if you're really looking the Grim Reaper in the face, worrying about your family etc. I'm not saying this is all a sham - I think that's a stretch - but they don't know the situation and they're trying to have it both ways right now (and, per Olivia chow, it's working, to an extent).

That is what I don't understand. I had a 4 cm tumour on my thyroid, they only had to remove half of my thyroid because they did a biopsy in surgery to see if the other half was cancerous. They had to have had the results quickly. I am in BC ,so maybe it is different here.

 

[dforthandbview]

I'm disappointed that Mikey won't be running for councillor. Here's exclusive video of him practicing his acceptance speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0qAfWWQJ5w&feature=youtu.be&t=14s

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Results can be quick - a few working days turnaround.

Bad news or not, sorry buddy, they're milking it for all its' worth. Action (registering him to run in Ward 2, Bro taking the time to run for mayor, mikey running for TDSB) doesn't jive with the act. He wanted you to run and continue his good work? Please, it's more cliched than a Hollywood movie.

AoD

 

[Videodrome]

It just occurred to me that the camping office across the street might need a new sign.

 

[freshcutgrass]

There are just so many parts of this that don't make sense to me. Too many coincidences and things to have fallen into place with perfect timing for this whole thing to be genuine, and yet there are several things about the "this was all planned" part that don't make logical sense to me, either.

That's because it's incredibly simple.

It's clear that Rob was not going to win the mayoral race. To keep Rob in political office, the only fallback position is to drop out and run for Ward 2, which he obviously has a better chance of winning (if not practically guaranteed).

Doug has has even less chance of winning the mayoralty race, but that's fine, because Doug has no interest in returning to city hall in the first place.

The "tumour" is an interesting development, as there needs to be an excuse for the switch.

 

[VintagePunk]

I know what you're saying about the hope thing. Maybe it's exactly that, but until I hear that he has staged cancer, I'll believe it's all a plan. These are not normal, moral people, they are opportunistic and take advantage of people's emotions. We are being played. Only time will time if I'm right.

One thing I do know is that Doug is the last person I would believe, under any circumstance. I don't think anything EVER comes out of his mouth that isn't at worst a bald-faced lie, or at best, grossly hyperbolic. So if I were judging the situation solely on his words tonight, I don't think there's any question which side I'd come down on.

I want to make sure that I have this right - so the working hypothesis right now is that this tumour/mass/whatever was discovered during a medical stay or exam around the beginning of rehab. Are we thinking it was proven conclusively benign at the time, and so he was just having it taken care of for an opportune political time? And if this is the case, are we thinking that it was found by one medical team who did nothing, and then he went to the hospital the other day and pretended that he was unaware of it? Would there be no way that the current medical team could access old medical records? Because if there is one thing I am certain of, it's that the doctor at Mt. Sinai is not lying, I believe he's presenting the facts as he knows them. Highly rated specialists have degree of pride and oftentimes, arrogance, a common quality required to get to the top of their field, and they would not risk their professional reputation on something like this.

Also, from what I've seen with my mother's diagnosis, although they will not say for sure that cancer is present until they have something definitive, like biopsy results, they can still be pretty sure. So not having the results for a week doesn't necessarily mean that the family doesn't know, if that makes sense.

Thoughts, anyone?

 

[Mag]

Metro Man just posted that dougfordformayor was registered in May.

 

[Mag]

Metro Man just posted that dougfordformayor was registered in May.

My bad. Just caught up on the background to this. No go.

 

[Kilroy]

That news conference was utter BS.
It was a campaign launch speech.
No more, no less.
All planned.

Olivia chow: "We should cut him some slack"? What a fool.
Doug Ford wants to cut her off at the knees.