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Redroom Studios
2010-Feb-27, 13:17
yep, I'm on board with that... a really great addition and improvement to this block!

syn
2010-Feb-27, 21:44
http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2009/nov/2009_11_06/IMG_nov-06-09-0181.jpg

So much going on, so darn nuanced and dithery. The precast "masonry", for instance, may be a reasonable facsimile of the 1827 Bank of Upper Canada across the street, but what's accomplished by it? Why break with how the identical two storey red brick bays on the rest of the building are done?

Agreed. It looks quite silly.

When renderings were first released, I wasn't a big fan of this project. It's generally turned out quite well though. The brick works really well. The use of materials on this corner, however, is a head-scratcher.

JayBee
2010-Feb-28, 15:22
I don't know how I feel about this building. I saw the model suite a little while back and walked around the building. I feel like there's just too much going on. It's not an eye sore by any means, but it just seems so stark...the hallways are boring, the lobby is meh. Perhaps I'll warm up to it once everything's complete.

udo
2010-Mar-04, 14:25
I have taken two images ltdan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ltdan/sets/72157603918534774/) posted on February 7 and 28 on his flickr site (one taken in sunny conditions, the other overcast), overlayed and tonemapped them, and finally added some color to the result - arguably way too much photoshopping. Here is what I got ...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2708/4406993686_8421c22a92_b.jpg

casaguy
2010-Mar-04, 16:12
It looks quite silly.


I'm puzzled by the negative comments here. Looking at both shots above I think this building fits in perfectly. I find the "masonry" adds nicely to the visual interest created by the differnet "sections" of the project.

And, BTW, beautiful work Udo. I'm confident workers at Aspen Ridge will be framing it.

jswag
2010-Mar-04, 23:42
Thanks for that photo udo. There's no such thing as "way too much photoshopping" if it's done well.

I like the photo, it shows how well this building fits into the neighbourhood despite its height. The masonry, the glass colour, other small details seem to be drawn from other buildings in the photo.

I know it's not something we usually do, but let's wait until it's finished to give a final judgment on the ground level.

Torontovibe
2010-Apr-03, 01:06
Video of VU Condominium.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoPLsg3GtVA

urbandreamer
2010-Apr-03, 01:50
Is Buy the Pound moving back there?

Urban Shocker
2010-Apr-04, 10:40
Oh what retro fun that would be ... Africans fighting over boots again, the eye-watering miasma redolent with acrid disinfectant, masked workers emerging from the sorting room with wagons of soiled trousers, raincoats and paperback books, the troughs of 25 cent Givenchy and Versace ties that I used to dive into head first ...

dt_toronto_geek
2010-May-02, 14:49
Some of today's photos are a little fuzzy due to the smoggy conditions

Click on the thumbnail to enlarge, then click again on the image for full size.

http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/scullydog259/th_Vu_April30-10.jpg (http://s770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/scullydog259/Vu_April30-10.jpg) http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/scullydog259/th_Vu2_May2-10.jpg (http://s770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/scullydog259/Vu2_May2-10.jpg)

condovo
2010-May-03, 05:02
The Primrose and The Grand need to be vaporized out of existence. Thanks for the pic, dt_geek.

ganjavih
2010-May-03, 12:14
The Primrose and The Grand need to be vaporized out of existence. Thanks for the pic, dt_geek.

Careful, you'll offend the concrete lovers out there. Anyway, they're good monuments to the crap that was being built back then. Personally, I would rather have a few ugly buildings in the landscape to mix things up a bit, even if just to avoid the monotony of shiny glass towers everywhere.

detroitbootybass
2010-May-03, 16:38
Thank you for the latest photos, dt!

adma
2010-May-04, 00:59
I'd sooner vaporize the Hilton Garden Inn at Jarvis + Dundas--concrete vs EIFS LoPo, no contest..

Mike in TO
2010-May-12, 18:07
East Side:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1241/4602398736_383ea50644.jpg

Edward Skira
2010-May-12, 18:10
We're going to tour Vu this week. Please post any questions you'd like answered.

urbandreamer
2010-May-12, 18:15
Ask them why it's so suburban looking!

Edward Skira
2010-May-12, 22:58
February 2008
http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/Vu-Feb16,08(1).jpg

April 2010
http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/Vu-Apr5,10(3).jpg

Solaris
2010-May-13, 09:56
We're going to tour Vu this week. Please post any questions you'd like answered.

I'm interested to see what the builder has to say about 'simplifying' the random diagonal columns on the ground floor (towards George St) shown in the original renderings ... those were pretty interesting looking ~

Thanks Ed ~


Ask them why it's so suburban looking!

Vu's hardly considered suburban looking really ...

CityPlaceN1
2010-May-13, 13:05
Great shot Ed007Toronto.

urbandreamer
2010-May-13, 15:40
It looks like a suburban mcmansion to me. Like one of those tacky things they build for large Israeli families in Bathurst-Lawrence.

condovo
2010-May-15, 06:39
^^ Vu looks like a suburban McMansion? Large Israeli families at Barthurst and Lawrence? ud, what drugs are you on...or not on?

ganjavih
2010-May-15, 09:55
Yeah, those comments make no sense. And I thought it was me and me overdose on cold medication.

urbandreamer
2010-May-15, 12:51
I used to live in the Bathurst-Lawrence riding. HP is in the mcmansion business, or at least used to be. Vu looks very mcmansion-ish to me--ie multiple treatments of different facades, inappropriate blank spaces facing the street corners, huge front "garage" etc. Perhaps the only thing missing is the copper flashing. :p My mcmansion exposure has mostly been in the B-L area. I'm certain it exists elsewhere, be it with the Amish, Iranians, or whatever background families....

One of the common reasons why the B-L newbies buy these mcmanions is "more room for a large family" and "status." I prefer the old original stylish bungalows==much classier. Vu reminds me more of a mcmansion than a classic modest bungalow design--perhaps the nearby East meets that aesthetic better?

Silence&Motion
2010-May-15, 13:07
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4376247074_bec525e5e5_b.jpg


The one thing that really bothers me about this building is how it meets the street at the corner of Adelaide and Jarvis. Due to the curve in Adelaide and the park on the other side of the intersection, Vu sits on one of the most prominent corners in the neighbourhood. Where there should be some kind of signature architectural gesture, we instead have a dark, cavernous entrance with a concrete column haphazardly placed in front. It's uninviting, desolate, and seems like the kind of place that might start smelling like urine after a while. Granted, I haven't walked by here for a few weeks so I don't know if there have been any improvements or added features. Other than putting in a lot of lights, I'm not sure what they could do.

As a point of reference, here are some examples of recent street corner architecture in the area. I'm not saying that these buildings are necessarily better architecture on the whole, but just that they are more coherent and thoughtful in the way they meet the street corner.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4609231816_c89e370f65_b.jpg

cfloryan
2010-May-15, 13:53
hmm ya true. I never noticed it before but the Vu corner has that middle school from the 70's look to it at ground level (except with shinier glass).

maestro
2010-May-15, 15:07
I do think the corner is the ideal location for a public walkway through the complex instead of retaill with the walkway off to one side. It perhaps could of been addressed better though.

Uncle Teddy
2010-May-15, 15:46
How long before the fine folks at the Salvation Army next door start hanging out here. I hate walking up this stretch of Jarvis at night. It kind of scares me.

Torontovibe
2010-May-15, 15:56
I find this building very awkward and a huge disappointment, as well as a wasted opportunity. It should have taken advantage of it's location, with a flat iron type building or something more interesting. Instead we get a pointed corner, with awkward balconies right beside it. (not attractive at all) It should have been a much more streamlined building. At street level, at least it has retail but it's not very well done. The corner is particularly bad. A building at this prominent location, should have been much, much better.

detroitbootybass
2010-May-15, 17:25
I don't mind the building and it fits in well with it's neighbors. It isn't the most attractive structure(s), but it is far, far better than what was there previously. Is it as nice as the original renders? No, but what Toronto building is... none. The city slathers each project with a big heaping of 'bland'. That's why the Absolute World towers could never be done in present-day Toronto.

urbandreamer
2010-May-15, 17:40
East is far better looking than its render suggested. So it the base of that DD condo by aA, and 18 Yorkville. Even CP's Neo/Montage look far better in person than in their renderings. I'm not surprised this building is ugly--it's by HP.

junctionist
2010-May-15, 20:27
I don't mind the building and it fits in well with it's neighbors. It isn't the most attractive structure(s), but it is far, far better than what was there previously. Is it as nice as the original renders? No, but what Toronto building is... none. The city slathers each project with a big heaping of 'bland'. That's why the Absolute World towers could never be done in present-day Toronto.

Plenty of buildings end up as nice as the original renderings. In the end, I think some developers are more competent than others. There are the chimps who call generic brick townhouses "brownstones", those who build awkward buildings at unique and prominent locations, and those who consistently hire the best architects and who have consistently deliver well designed projects. Why couldn't the Absolute towers be built in Toronto? The same developer is building the L-Tower, an impressive starchitect-designed tower. We've seen plenty of great projects.

adma
2010-May-15, 22:09
I used to live in the Bathurst-Lawrence riding. HP is in the mcmansion business, or at least used to be. Vu looks very mcmansion-ish to me--ie multiple treatments of different facades, inappropriate blank spaces facing the street corners, huge front "garage" etc. Perhaps the only thing missing is the copper flashing. :p My mcmansion exposure has mostly been in the B-L area. I'm certain it exists elsewhere, be it with the Amish, Iranians, or whatever background families....

One of the common reasons why the B-L newbies buy these mcmanions is "more room for a large family" and "status." I prefer the old original stylish bungalows==much classier. Vu reminds me more of a mcmansion than a classic modest bungalow design--perhaps the nearby East meets that aesthetic better?

In that case, what condo design *isn't* McMansion-ish? Methinks the metaphor's lost in translation--esp. when one considers how McMansion-bashers might be more prone to equate this condo example a stone's throw to the NW...

http://www.intracorp.ca/_img/projects/french-quarter-lg.jpg

condovo
2010-May-16, 05:04
^^ Oh god. My eyes. MY EYES!!!

Edward Skira
2010-May-16, 08:57
Its worse in public.

Urban Shocker
2010-May-16, 10:39
Vu reminds me of the sort of design ( using the word in a general sense - it could equally be applied to any sort of product of the creative imagination - a graphic layout, or a website, or a piece of furniture etc. ) where they got it to a certain point with it and then, rather than pare it down for a more direct and effective statement, they started fussing over it, adding bits on, dithering around and equivocating. As a result things started to go off the rails a bit, the result isn't as handsome as it could be, and the potential isn't achieved.

When I look at the building it seems generally rather overwrought, and I find myself questioning the need for such complexity rather than admiring it as a coherent whole. It's like being at a concert that could be performed better - you're aware of the technical faults, time starts to drag, and you think "oh well, maybe next time ..." HP, for all their success with designing beautiful smaller projects, come across as the poor man's aA when they go big. That thing they designed for Yonge and Bloor that looks like a box with curvy bits stuck on, compared to the aesthetic that Yansong Ma's fabulous "Marilyn" building expresses, is another example of their falling short in this way.

Urban Shocker
2010-May-16, 11:13
... also, the tower doesn't work as well as it ought to as a view terminus since it is comparatively wide and lacks the "release" of sky around it that made a structure such as Old City Hall's campanile stand out so well when viewed from a distance.

detroitbootybass
2010-May-16, 16:39
Why couldn't the Absolute towers be built in Toronto?


Because the city would make it end up looking like this:

http://www.sotawall.com/portfolio/Canada/BayAdelaideCenter-0561/01%20-%20Bay%20Adelaide.jpg


By the way, I don't dislike B/A... but it's way too common of a style in Toronto (the 'box').



As far as L is concerned, I hope it ends up as curvy as the renders, but I'm not holding my breath.

adma
2010-May-17, 00:46
Well, actually, in a Vu-type location, an Absolute design *might* be a little too much, esp. this close to the old Town of York, St Lawrence, etc. You need a spot where a little prima-donnaness makes more sense...

cdr108
2010-May-17, 02:41
In that case, what condo design *isn't* McMansion-ish? Methinks the metaphor's lost in translation--esp. when one considers how McMansion-bashers might be more prone to equate this condo example a stone's throw to the NW...

http://www.intracorp.ca/_img/projects/french-quarter-lg.jpg


NO !!! not the French Quarter ...... yuck !

urbandreamer
2010-May-17, 03:23
^Toronto has a French Quarter? :p

Redroom Studios
2010-May-22, 17:00
various shots from late Thursday...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3414/4629500539_d4ac25edaa_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4630101442_43bdff8bea_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4629500933_10b38c733a_o.jpg

ponyboy
2010-May-22, 20:11
looking back to renders, I noticed that the large cylindrical concrete column in the front open area was not there. Did they have to add that for structural reasons after consulting with civil engineers? Could they have omitted that column with other added supports? Maybe it is being picky, but for me that column somewhat compromises the cleaner design theme. Perhaps in the future they can bring the glass out so the column becomes an interior element.

cdr108
2010-May-22, 22:12
looking back to renders, I noticed that the large cylindrical concrete column in the front open area was not there. Did they have to add that for structural reasons after consulting with civil engineers? Could they have omitted that column with other added supports? Maybe it is being picky, but for me that column somewhat compromises the cleaner design theme. Perhaps in the future they can bring the glass out so the column becomes an interior element.


i wonder if the column is for safety reasons since adelaide street east could turn into a 1-way speedway after the bars close.

condovo
2010-May-23, 00:00
I have no problem with VU other than it being somewhat dumbed-down from the renders/models. It forms a reasonable view-terminus and fits in well within the existing neighbourhood fabric. What does bother me is the unsightly street clutter of ugly light standards, utility poles, overhead wires, etc. that can be seen in Redroom's first pic in particular. Why oh why is Toronto so far behind other cities in dealing with this? It's inexcusable.

interchange42
2010-Jun-03, 02:56
UrbanToronto got to tour Vü today in the capable hands of the site's foreman Surya, and one of the developers, Christene. The tour has resulted in many interesting photos, and an answer to the most enduring question about the building. So, let's get the question out of the way:

Q: The renders showed angled columns supporting the podium. What happened?

A: The angled columns were the intention of Hariri-Pontarini, the design architect. When the building went through the engineering process, the architect of record, Young Wright IBI, declared them to difficult and expensive.

So there you go, no big a surprise.

First, let's consider the name, with the silly umlaut. At least, I always thought it was silly, but that was before the tour today. One thing the marketers figured out correctly was that the views from here are absolutely exceptional, and you can't really just call a place View Condos, can you? Not and have too many people remember it. Anyway, all was quickly forgiven when I saw what people who bought facing Adelaide get to wake up to. This:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüWakeUp.jpg

So, are we agreed? Angled columns or not, silly umlauts or not, the project has lots to recommend it, so sit back, and enjoy the Vü.

Let's return to ground level to start the tour. If you can't picture it all, here's Vü, model sized, looking from the southeast corner:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüModelpano.jpg


From the northeast, it looks like this from George Street:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/Vüfromstreet.jpg


As UrbanToronto has lots of street-side images of Vü earlier in the thread, let's move right into the courtyard, where finishing touches are still being made:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüCourtyardpano.jpg


This walkway will extend from the corner of Adelaide and Jarvis through the centre of the site:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüCourtyardWalkway.jpg


This area to the south of the walkway will be planted, while that large area up against the building will be a water feature.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüCourtyardPlanter.jpg

UrbanToronto will be back to show you the completed landscaping, plus two pieces of art that will grace the terrestrial realm here.

Let's head inside now, to the South Lobby, a Cecconi Simone design.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüSouthLobby1.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüSouthLobby2.jpg


Building amenities include a fitness centre and a party room:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüFitness.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüPartyRoom.jpg


The rec-room/billiards room was having its floor laid:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüRecroom.jpg


Vü has an extensive podium rooftop outdoor recreation area too. Looking down on it from above:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüRooftop4pano.jpg


A pile of pictures on the rooftop, nine floors up:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüRooftop2pano.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüScreen.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüTurf.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüLoungers.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüPergola.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüPergola2.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüRooftop3pano.jpg


The view's pretty good from nine floors up:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüView1pano.jpg


Let's drop a few floors, and get a look at a finished unit: (usually only found in the Real Estate subforum, we know...)

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüKitchen.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüKitchenView.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüAdelaide3pano.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüBullnose.jpg


And finally, let's head for the penthouse level, and the Eva Gabor views:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüPenthouse.jpg


Well, that will be a penthouse view soon, like these:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüAdelaide1pano.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüAdelaide.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüJarvis.jpg


And if you don't want to focus on just Adelaide or Jarvis, there's this perspective:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VüView2pano1500.jpg

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condovo
2010-Jun-03, 03:25
Thanks for the great pics. I've always liked the project and do so even more after seeing these images.

Question: Will the walkway through the courtyard be publicly accessible? I was told by a salesperson in the showroom years ago that it would be.

tissot
2010-Jun-03, 08:53
Nice tour. I always liked this building too.




Let's drop a few floors, and get a look at a finished unit: (usually only found in the Real Estate subforum, we know...)



-_-'

It's always good to lead by example......

j/k

interchange42
2010-Jun-03, 09:42
Question: Will the walkway through the courtyard be publicly accessible? I was told by a salesperson in the showroom years ago that it would be.

Yes, it will be publicly accessible, have a major piece of art at each end, and pass by their large planter and water feature, so it should be quite cool!

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ganjavih
2010-Jun-03, 12:19
Those views are gorgeous.

urbandreamer
2010-Jun-03, 12:32
^But doesn't change the fact Vu is still one of the ugliest condos to go up in the eastside during the past decade.

JayBee
2010-Jun-03, 12:51
Spire is such a beautiful building....jeez

alklay
2010-Jun-03, 12:52
I really like this building: the different facades on each side of the building all work to add variety to the structure (and diluting its bulk) while at the same time, playing off the forms in the immediate neighbourhood.

And thanks for the tour and pictures.

Solaris
2010-Jun-03, 22:02
the different facades on each side of the building all work to add variety to the structure (and diluting its bulk) while at the same time, playing off the forms in the immediate neighbourhood.

I completely agree alklay ... Vü has turned out quite beautifully (inside and out), the views are amazing ... thank you for the photo tour I-42

egotrippin
2010-Jun-03, 23:46
^But doesn't change the fact Vu is still one of the ugliest condos to go up in the eastside during the past decade.

I can think of quite a few worse examples: The French Quarter, that thing at Queen and Jarvis, The Richmond (not sure if this is the right name, the one near Sherbourne and Richmond). The first few phases of the Distillery District condos (pre-aA) are way uglier too. Vu isn't inspiring or beautiful, but it's more of an okay space filler. Ugliest is definitely an overblown assessment.

Though, I've noted your definite anti-HP slant, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised by this judgment.

condovo
2010-Jun-03, 23:53
Also, the fit-and-finish seems to be exemplary here. Thanks for confirming that the walkway will be accessible to the public. This may be tricky though given the troubled population nearby.

Urban Shocker
2010-Jun-04, 14:25
Vu is right up there - with BSN and ROCP North - as one of the best Clewespotting locations in the city. Once Market Wharf is built, probably the best.

exstasie
2010-Jun-07, 17:10
Thanks for the great pics. I've always liked the project and do so even more after seeing these images.

Question: Will the walkway through the courtyard be publicly accessible? I was told by a salesperson in the showroom years ago that it would be.

It's actually completed now. They just finished the walkway over the weekend and you can walk through now. They also removed the fence at the Adelaide/Jarvis intersection so you can walk right through now!

Parkdalian
2010-Jun-07, 17:16
^Those lobby interiors look better than the Thompson Hotel's!

cdr108
2010-Jun-08, 02:54
^But doesn't change the fact Vu is still one of the ugliest condos to go up in the eastside during the past decade.

really? i would have thought Space (on Richmond St E), the Richmond (@ Sherbourne by Tridel), King's Court (King @ Sherbourne), 330 Adelaide St. E, 100 Front Street E (@ Jarvis) come to mind as being worse.

udo
2010-Jun-08, 16:42
Now I know why it is called the Vü. Truly amazing.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1272/4683035496_f909037413_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1306/4683034952_cda9d7d92b_b.jpg

JayBee
2010-Jun-08, 16:45
The type of view that sells a place. Absolutely amazing.

Edward Skira
2010-Jun-08, 16:52
Is that your unit udo? If so congratulations!

udo
2010-Jun-08, 19:00
Is that your unit udo? If so congratulations!

It's my daughter's and I can only envy her.

egotrippin
2010-Jun-08, 21:40
If I win the lottery soon, or get a great raise (insert eye-rolling), Vu has definitely made my shortlist of places to purchase in. The views are the deciding factor; definitely some of the best I've seen in a while.

Solaris
2010-Jun-09, 00:53
truly stunning Vü udo ~ your daughter has does herself well ... great choice !!

(now I can go back to dreaming of a view like your photos)

exstasie
2010-Jun-09, 09:48
It's my daughter's and I can only envy her.

Very nice view! I have pretty much the same view, unfortunately no where near as high up! It is quite spectacular though!

detroitbootybass
2010-Jun-09, 16:26
Amazing photos from everyone... the view looking out over the sea of green that is St. James Park and directly at the downtown core (and Spire!) is quite stunning. I'm envious of everyone that gets to go to bed and wake up to that!

3Dementia
2010-Jun-09, 17:25
We forget that the avalanche (of routinely criticised) tower-building in town contributes to major drama in the city building built form.

Something hundreds of cities would kill for... most of these forums initially serviced skyscraper geeks after all.

Love Detroit, always have. Imagine this kind of construction mania in a town with such "good bones". ;-)

udo
2010-Jun-12, 11:04
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1288/4692745839_08ab803556_b.jpg

I always wanted to do a 360 panorama from the penthouse level. Yesterday finally the opportunity presented itself. Follow this link (http://www.360cities.net/image/vu-penthouse) to activate the interactive panorama. Best viewed in full screen mode with controls, map and ads hidden.

Traynor
2010-Jun-12, 15:50
^ Spec-freakin-tacular!

Thanks for the link.

detroitbootybass
2010-Jun-12, 16:13
Awesome, udo!!

cassius
2010-Jun-17, 12:02
Absolutely stunning photos!!!

Going back to an earlier conversation about ground-level, this image showcases just how bad the corner of the building is. Taken this morning.
http://gweeble.com/uploads/vu-2010-06-17_1276785820.jpg

DSC
2010-Jun-17, 14:57
Going back to an earlier conversation about ground-level, this image showcases just how bad the corner of the building is. Taken this morning.
I actually quite like Vu, from a distance, and residents clearly have great views but the corner of Jarvis and Adelaide is ghastly and the entrance on George (where the sloping support pillars were supposed to be) is not much better. The entrance pictured above was supposed to encourgage people to walk through it towards George - it certainly does not encourage one to do so. Too bad!

udo
2010-Jul-16, 10:25
Vü and St. Lawrence Hall as seen last night from the rooftop patio of Market Square Condominiums. It seems that not many people have moved into Vü's South Tower yet.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4798450947_ee5d3d7574_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4135/4799215610_e4071a75b8_b.jpg

Sugar Factory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redpath_Sugar_Refinery), St. Lawrence Market (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lawrence_Market_South), St Lawrence Hall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lawrence_Hall) and Market Square Condominiums (http://www.marketsquarecondo.com/) (just to the right) as seen from Vü.

AlvinofDiaspar
2010-Jul-16, 10:41
Thanks udo - I don't think I would get tired of those two views ever. I wish there is a higher rez version I can use as a desktop background!

AoD

Solaris
2010-Jul-21, 18:37
Vu seen from Bay Adelaide Centre West
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/IMG_4919.jpg

A wider view ~ :D
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/IMG_4918.jpg

udo
2010-Jul-23, 12:57
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4821881142_81c40c100f_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4820835569_20f7fd24af_b.jpg

Vü as seen from a small airplane

interchange42
2010-Jul-23, 13:05
Ooo! More tilt-shift - faked or real - please!

42

udo
2010-Jul-23, 14:09
Ooo! More tilt-shift - faked or real - please!


Photoshopped:
- gradient selection
- a bit of lens blur
- some more saturation

Redroom Studios
2010-Jul-24, 14:57
fantastic work man! not all of us get the opportunity to fly around downtown in a small plane!

p.s. - what is your flickr page / name?

exstasie
2010-Jul-25, 10:11
Vü and St. Lawrence Hall as seen last night from the rooftop patio of Market Square Condominiums. It seems that not many people have moved into Vü's South Tower yet.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4798450947_ee5d3d7574_b.jpg


Hey,

Is it possible to get a link or PM the actual file of this photo? I absolutely love it and want to put it as my desktop background!

Thanks in advance.

TorontoArchitect
2010-Jul-29, 16:11
Beautiful shot!

AlvinofDiaspar
2010-Jul-29, 16:19
I can't say enough good things about your postings, (k)udo!

AoD

tomms
2010-Jul-29, 18:43
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/4834372164_107a300f36_b.jpg

.

Build Up
2010-Jul-30, 09:17
Great shots tomms and udo!

AlvinofDiaspar
2010-Jul-30, 09:58
Tomms and udo are spoiling us :)

AoD

interchange42
2010-Jul-30, 12:34
True, but we can take it. Keep dishing it out boys - we're resilient!

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Mehrdad
2010-Sep-10, 16:08
Design: Hariri Pontarini Architects
Photo: Mehrdad Tavakkolian

http://urbantoronto.ca/attachment.php?attachmentid=4880

Edward Skira
2010-Sep-12, 21:24
The Brick Man public art component. Hard to get a good shot due to the hydro poll and street lights.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VuCondo-Brick-Sept11,10(1).jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/VuCondo-Brick-Sept11,10(4).jpg

Redroom Studios
2010-Sep-12, 22:19
cool, I like it!

Solaris
2010-Sep-14, 03:49
New Toy on Jarvis
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/August%202010%20onwards/IMG_5038.jpg

Looking Up~
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/August%202010%20onwards/IMG_5037.jpg

DSC
2010-Sep-14, 09:34
The entrance from the corner of Jarvis and Adelaide is really a BIG disappointment - from the initial renderings (yes, I know one shouldn't believe them!) it looked as though there would be a high and wide "Vu" into the courtyard but they then lowered the ceiling and itr's like walking into a dark basement. The strange new artwork does not do much for me either. Too bad as it's a pretty nice looking building - it just could have been better!

Towered
2010-Sep-15, 21:33
I think the "brick man" is cute actually.

Granny
2010-Sep-20, 07:45
Absolutely superb photo, Mehrdad. Certainly a beautiful building.

Mehrdad
2010-Sep-20, 11:24
Thanks Granny for the positive comment
Its 18 s exposure in a windy day!
cheers

detroitbootybass
2010-Sep-26, 20:59
I just noticed the brick dude - and I like him!

redflag
2010-Oct-06, 14:10
The entrance from the corner of Jarvis and Adelaide is really a BIG disappointment - from the initial renderings (yes, I know one shouldn't believe them!) it looked as though there would be a high and wide "Vu" into the courtyard but they then lowered the ceiling and itr's like walking into a dark basement. The strange new artwork does not do much for me either. Too bad as it's a pretty nice looking building - it just could have been better!

I completely agree with you on that one. I think that weird basement-looking entrance with that utilitarian gray column totally disorients the building. I dont mind the brick man, but I almost find it too heavy for that location which has a lot of brick looming over it. Though the building itself is not bad, I think the prominent entrance at the Jarvis and Adelaide is such a huge disappointment. Its almost reminiscent of some of the older 70's style building entrances that you would find in North York.

JayBee
2010-Oct-06, 14:33
A very cold building IMO.

udo
2010-Oct-07, 23:52
This is how the Vü looks from within the west tower of the "London on the Esplanade" condo building high above Scott Street ...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/5060853708_509f78b847_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/5061510002_962a20a8d5_b.jpg

udo
2010-Oct-11, 19:05
Vü from parking lot where Post House Condos will be built:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4153/5072059383_8d4139557e_b.jpg

udo
2010-Oct-11, 19:09
one more picture ... the Brick Man enjoying the view of downtown:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5071665303_c6dae47536_b.jpg

tfil
2010-Oct-27, 18:46
Vu view

neuhaus
2010-Oct-27, 19:58
udo, those are great shots!

udo
2010-Oct-27, 22:12
The other art object when entering the Vü courtyard from George Street:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1046/5121587193_6ff9371d31_b.jpg

It looks as if the background is made from images in and around St. James park. I have no idea what the superimposed text says. Does anyone know?

Solaris
2010-Nov-15, 10:57
photos that I never got around to posting previously ~

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q438/Solaris_Metrogate/August%202010%20onwards/IMG_5059.jpg

drum118
2011-Jul-04, 03:17
June 30
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5063/5892899492_e5edca3928_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5199/5892897606_005882ae25_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5892893320_d09e30e610_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5236/5892324241_d378587371_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6050/5892319563_a65b291160_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6045/5892320683_f0d57acc0f_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5309/5892889644_6174a3d7ca_b.jpg

taal
2011-Jul-04, 08:26
Saw it in person, really makes this area look so much better.


A comment not to be taken the wrong way:
We have a couple really great parks on the east side ... On Queen near St. James and around Allen gardens. Yet they don't feel downtown, I think this contributes to the feeling Toronto doesn't have great parks downtown. A couple problems: 1) They're a bit too far east I guess. 2) This is the part not to take the wrong way, depending on the time and the day, there can be more then an average # of homeless people in these two great parks ... that can definitely turn some people off rightlyfully or wrongfully, I should add they feel completely harmless though.

Another interesting, point, in typical Toronto fashion, isn't there a homeless sheltern just north *touching* this building. Again it doesn't feel scary or the like at all.

Last point. Sherbonre is a great street till about Queen or so! It's more build up then Jarvis at the moment, lots of new smaller condo building and these are really nice, the architecture very much fits into the area with lots of brick but the grass adds a lot of contract.

Jarvis is slowly becoming the same way, Church though suffers from some massive parking lots north of King.

CityPlaceN1
2011-Jul-04, 10:44
Great photo update.

AlbertC
2011-Jul-04, 22:31
Vu is such a great overall development, automatically improving the streetscape of the area. Aspen Ridge is an underrated developer in this city, quietly putting together an impressive portfolio of quality projects. If only the tower was at least 16 storeys taller, the view terminus along Adelaide is a bit lacking.

Ramako
2011-Jul-07, 04:14
the view terminus along Adelaide is a bit lacking.

A bit? I can't immediately think of a bigger wasted opportunity in this last cycle.

Torontovibe
2011-Jul-07, 18:22
A bit? I can't immediately think of a bigger wasted opportunity in this last cycle.

I couldn't agree with you more. This complex is overwhelmingly dull. It's basically just a few decent boxes. At this location, it should have been a head-turner. (dare I say iconic) I would have loved to have seen a taller flatiron type building, with some nice curves. This location is one of the best in the city and it deserved so much more than this. Yep, another huge missed opprotunity. I'm getting sick of how many times this happens in Toronto.

DSC
2011-Oct-18, 19:20
More public art (the last, I think) at VU - on Adelaide Street just west of George.:

http://www.slna.ca/slna-news-pdfs/VU.JPG

Urban Shocker
2011-Oct-18, 19:46
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6045/5892320683_f0d57acc0f_b.jpg

Poor Brick Man looks like he's trying to jump to his death from a very short height. Could they not have planted his feet firmly on the sidewalk, instead of balancing him on that silly little mini-plinth atop the equally silly metal grid?

Fish&Chips
2011-Oct-19, 15:06
I couldn't agree with you more. This complex is overwhelmingly dull. It's basically just a few decent boxes. At this location, it should have been a head-turner. (dare I say iconic) I would have loved to have seen a taller flatiron type building, with some nice curves. This location is one of the best in the city and it deserved so much more than this. Yep, another huge missed opprotunity. I'm getting sick of how many times this happens in Toronto.

I share your anger about this collosal waste of such an important opportunity. That dark, low-ceilinged corner walkway is hardly the inviting transparent corner that could easily have been achieved. What I just cannot figure out is why that was not taken into account. I don't think it would have cost any more to do a proper job here.

udo
2011-Oct-22, 11:52
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6052/6268293000_eded392646_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6221/6269322496_ec7ec95f6b_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6104/6268301280_45bd784b60_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6218/6268302664_7f41db569f_b.jpg

udo
2011-Oct-22, 12:06
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6218/6269467856_6ffe21d7ce_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6167/6258772565_03e627c344_b.jpg

toronto3
2011-Oct-22, 12:32
Wow awesome pics!!! Editing is very appropriate for halloween..... Great job again

vegeta_skyline
2011-Oct-24, 12:10
Those are some sick pics udo! more please :D
(meanwhile here's a comparatively crappy pic from a relatively crappy camera)

The Vu from afar;

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6053/6275425705_72651a4a3e_z.jpg

Red October
2011-Oct-24, 12:16
Holy HDR Batman!

udo
2013-Feb-13, 13:23
This thread has been quiet for a long time. Here are two photos, one I took pointing from the VU towards L Tower and the other one taken by SkyJacked from L Tower crane towards VU. Hope you don't mind HDR photo editing:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8491/8441907440_c48fd4fe28_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8105/8470417281_f392392016_b.jpg

ratoronto
2013-Feb-13, 14:02
What a view!!!

intervention
2013-Feb-13, 14:34
I couldn't agree with you more. This complex is overwhelmingly dull. It's basically just a few decent boxes. At this location, it should have been a head-turner. (dare I say iconic) I would have loved to have seen a taller flatiron type building, with some nice curves. This location is one of the best in the city and it deserved so much more than this. Yep, another huge missed opprotunity. I'm getting sick of how many times this happens in Toronto.

I couldn't agree anymore with this comment. The terminus is appalling and overall, even at grade, the treatment of the facade is a combination of inexpensive and unattractive. The interior courtyard is desolate and sad.

udo
2013-Feb-13, 14:52
I must have let the genie out of the bottle. Sorry, didn't mean to.

detroitbootybass
2013-Feb-13, 15:15
I must have let the genie out of the bottle. Sorry, didn't mean to.

Hey, I'm glad you did... I love the photos!

Granny
2013-Feb-13, 15:28
I couldn't agree anymore with this comment. The terminus is appalling and overall, even at grade, the treatment of the facade is a combination of inexpensive and unattractive. The interior courtyard is desolate and sad.

I could not DISAGREE more with the both of you. It does what it was meant to do and does it admirably. The podium brick blends nicely with the surrounding buildings.. The podium height itself also stays cohesive with its surroundings. The shops meet the street successfully, contributing well to the new increase in foot traffic to once was a desolate downright creepy intersection. The tower itself shows off as a handsome glowing terminus when viewed from as far back as Adelaide and Young especially during evening hours without being obtrusively tall. The inner courtyard does exactly what it was designed to do. An easy drop off point for visitors and a very ample roomy entry/exit point from a large foyer. The whimsical brick sculpture is about as nice of a 'feel good, bet you smiled' art piece as I have seen.
To judge this complex that was carefully designed to integrate itself with the neighbourhood, against monolithic cutting edge edifices is wrong.
Sometimes a duck is just a duck and this duck looks happy in its 'pond'.
From what I've picked up from a number of folks that hang their hats at this corner, I suspect they would probably agree with me.

DSC
2013-Feb-13, 15:45
The big problem with VU is the crappy pedestrian entrance at Jarvis & Adelaide. In the original plans this was to be a 'grand' entrance but it's more like a rat hole now. It also does not look public (though it's supposed to be) and when one gets into the courtyard there's no obvious pedestrian pathway to George. Apart from that the building is ''fine' but it really could have been much better.

deerparker
2013-Feb-13, 19:48
The stone walkway from the Jarvis entrance to the courtyard follows through to George. While I agree that the entrance from Jarvis could be more inviting, how 'obvious' does the pedestrian pathway need to be if you've already found you way to the courtyard? I'd expect most people would just continue walking a straight line to the only other exit from the courtyard where they would arrive at George.

Silence&Motion
2013-Feb-14, 10:15
Rat hole is a perfect term. I've sat in the park and in the espresso bar across the street and watched that corner. People are about as interested in that entrance as they are in a parking garage entrance. Though it probably makes the perfect place to take a leak if you can't wait to find a washroom.

WeirdFishes
2013-Feb-14, 11:39
Rat hole is a perfect term. I've sat in the park and in the espresso bar across the street and watched that corner. People are about as interested in that entrance as they are in a parking garage entrance. Though it probably makes the perfect place to take a leak if you can't wait to find a washroom.

Completely agree. This building is horrible at the street level and an eye sore, a real wasted opportunity. I didn't even know the square was public until I read it here! And I pass by that corner daily.

CityPlaceN1
2013-Feb-14, 11:43
Great views for sure but yes a disappointment at street level. The access to the parking area is a joke. Sure doesn't feel public.

Torontovibe
2013-Feb-14, 14:59
That square does not look public. You wouldn't get that sense from walking by but then it looks so unappealing, why would someone want to walk through it anyway? There is nothing there, anyone would want to see.

interchange42
2013-Feb-15, 02:12
It's not so much a public square, as it is open space that allows public access to the complex's entrances which are contained within the square. You really only head in there if you are going to Vü. Some people, not many, will use the walkway to cut across the block.

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Riverdale Rink Rat
2013-Feb-15, 08:53
It's not so much a public square, as it is open space that allows public access to the complex's entrances which are contained within the square. You really only head in there if you are going to Vü. Some people, not many, will use the walkway to cut across the block.

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I used to cut through here all the time. It's true that you walk out on George through what is essentially the garage driveway, but the Jarvis 'brick guy' entrance was always obvious as you walked diagonally thru the park.

Cut commuting time to the Rogue by half a beer...

udo
2013-Feb-16, 20:16
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8479561399_92a1e94d2f_b.jpg
... another edit of a SkyJacked photo

udo
2013-May-04, 12:01
Two more nice VU pics courtesy of @SkyJacked793 (http://twitter.com/SkyJacked793)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8541/8706581385_dd9f1cccb2_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8394/8706579659_a0f6366f77_b.jpg

I sure hope this is not triggering another round of VU and Brick Man bashing! I like them.

SP!RE
2013-May-04, 15:05
Brick Man statue I love.

Vu I hate.

udo
2013-Jun-19, 09:57
Beautiful capture by Neil Ta (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilta/8967900819) of Adelaide Street winding around the VU:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5332/8967900819_311a66b5f4_b.jpg

udo
2013-Sep-24, 17:39
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7347/9753488141_79eea5fe73_b.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7347/9753488141_f713a81577_h.jpg)

Granny
2013-Sep-24, 18:22
Brick Man statue I love.

Vu I hate.

Brick Man statue : amusing at best

Vu I love.

WeirdFishes
2013-Sep-25, 08:54
Brick Man statue I love.

Vu I hate.

We have 50% in common. Except I hate both.

DSC
2013-Sep-25, 10:18
Brick Man statue : amusing at best

Vu I love.

Ditto about the Brickman and I wonder what "we" will think of it in 25 years.

Vu is good in parts but the entrance at the corner of Adelaide and Jarvis (behind the Brickman) is a rat-hole and a great disappointment. The original plan had a much grander and more welcoming walk-through. It leads to/from an equally unwelcoming courtyard. Overall, a "fail".

ponyboy
2013-Sep-25, 11:57
agree about the street-level on that corner.

that has to be one of the best rooftop patio views in the city, but where are the people enjoying it?

JasonParis
2013-Sep-25, 13:35
Brick Man gets lost as there are bricks behind him too. I think lighting him could marginally improve this (at night at least).

junctionist
2013-Sep-25, 21:55
The sculpture is interesting, but it doesn't stand out amidst the brick background.

urbandreamer
2013-Oct-05, 11:10
5 October 2013: My new friend sheltered me from the rain :)
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/3332/bx1f.jpg

udo
2014-Feb-09, 18:30
Adelaide West as seen from VU ...

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3702/12419788253_b292633c32_c.jpg (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3702/12419788253_b292633c32_b.jpg)

interchange42
2014-Feb-10, 01:44
Thanks Udo!

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Torontovibe
2014-Feb-10, 02:19
^^ That is CRAZY!

Roundabout
2014-Oct-14, 18:07
Earlier this summer:

35669

Tewder
2014-Oct-15, 11:32
What a pretty garden... and no pink rubber in sight!